All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

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Can’t wait to wait to see what happens when 6G comes out.

I am sure the same people will make gobs of money for "improving your life"

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I live in the inner city, so what about urban inflected McCarthyism? Inquiring minds wanna know.

I am not sure about you but my urban suburb just put in a Refund the Police mayor after crime scared them into thinking like suburban moms. There is a movie out that you might have seen where they say that Fear is the mind killer. Jan 6 anybody?

[shooshoomanjoe]

as if courts don't play to those that rule

I'm used to conservatives moving the goal post but this is the first time a conservative has moved the stadium.

[JB]

Speaking of Jan. 6, one of the questions I have is why this man still hasn't been arrested. He literally called for storming the Capitol the night before and the day of, both caught on video. "I don’t even like to say it because I’ll be arrested. I’ll say it. We need to go into the Capitol."
When Garland was asked about him and these clips were played in Congress last week, Garland wouldn't say why he hasn't been arrested.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...er/6624406002/

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Sen. McCarthy accusing random American citizens of being secret communists...

versus actual videotape of Republicans screaming about "Stop the Steal" for weeks leading up to many of them in attendance at the Capitol the morning the attack was carried out. And a clear indication there are phone records between the White House and those who organized the rally, as well as White House calls to those who plotted the attack. Who have ignored all subpoenas to get them to testify, while all but ten people their party in Congress try to refuse any analysis of these actual facts.

Yeah, clearly, those two things are exactly the same.

random americans? so much for truth telling.

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Speaking of Jan. 6, one of the questions I have is why this man still hasn't been arrested. He literally called for storming the Capitol the night before and the day of, both caught on video. "I don’t even like to say it because I’ll be arrested. I’ll say it. We need to go into the Capitol."
When Garland was asked about him and these clips were played in Congress last week, Garland wouldn't say why he hasn't been arrested.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...er/6624406002/

ooooh I know the answer. Hint: Shades of James 'Whitey' Bulger

[Dalak]

I'd like to point out more technology dependent on infrastructure:
-Cars
-Electronics of all types and things that rely on them (Phones, Traffic Signals, The Internet as a whole, Large scale manufacturing of anything)

So in essence that troll is complaining about modern society's technology ON society's technology. Don't feed it.

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I'd like to point out more technology dependent on infrastructure:
-Cars
-Electronics of all types and things that rely on them (Phones, Traffic Signals, The Internet as a whole, Large scale manufacturing of anything)

So in essence that troll is complaining about modern society's technology ON society's technology. Don't feed it.

Is it trollish to point out that industry doesn't care about the costs of these until people say no - saying yes to everything is a dim way to proceed through life. Got some coal plants for those electronic goodies?

Whether 5G will measure up to its hype of performance and expectations remains a question since there is a different market today than when 4G came on line in 2010. At that time, there was room for improved cell service, more apps, video streaming and new subscribers. Today there is little new subscriber growth except in the chronically underserved areas of rural America which have been neglected by the telecom industry and FCC for decades. The challenge for 5G is to create a market demand, to devise new gimmicks to finagle higher revenues out of current subscribers and most especially to expand their toxic infrastructure to rural America. The market is much more aware than it was in 2010 as customers are no longer lining up around the corner to purchase the newest thingamajig.
As universal wireless coverage remains a myth in rural America, the Digital Divide is alive and well after decades of neglect by those telecoms who now see rural customers as their cash cow.
With the digital world of personal computers and cell phones a reality for the last three decades, broadband service to rural America has continued to play second fiddle in favor of upgrades to more affluent urban customers and the telecom industry’s bottom line.
Unlike the national commitment to provide rural electrification in the 1920s as a major accomplishment, there has been no such Federal commitment to bring geographically challenged citizens into the digital age nor has Congress demanded that the telecom industry do whatever it takes to end the Digital Divide.

Hell they don't vote Democratic anyways

as to the science - https://arstechnica.com/features/2020/09/5g-03-rural/

[babyblob]

as if courts don't play to those that rule

I am 100 percent lost on how a Drug case in China has anything to do with you trying to prove your case the American election was stolen. You want to link some car jacking cases in Peru while your at it? Maybe that will make your case?

[Mister Mets]

Not terrorists - to me you are the one backing a Lie and illegitimated ruler. Maybe you could say ass one more time to convince everyone of your points.

Under oath, Giuliani and Sydney Powell admit they did not vet their claims about voter fraud.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/polit...pes/index.html

This should demonstrate that the Trump administration claims of voter fraud are nonsense.
It's not something to be taken seriously when the people most responsible for spreading claims that Biden is an illegitimate President admit in court that the arguments are made in bad faith.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Under oath, Giuliani and Sydney Powell admit they did not vet their claims about voter fraud.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/polit...pes/index.html

This should demonstrate that the Trump administration claims of voter fraud are nonsense.
It's not something to be taken seriously when the people most responsible for spreading claims that Biden is an illegitimate President admit in court that the arguments are made in bad faith.

“Bad faith”? Let’s call a spade a spade, my friend, Ghouliani and Powell were flat out lying out their asses.

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Under oath, Giuliani and Sydney Powell admit they did not vet their claims about voter fraud.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/polit...pes/index.html

This should demonstrate that the Trump administration claims of voter fraud are nonsense.
It's not something to be taken seriously when the people most responsible for spreading claims that Biden is an illegitimate President admit in court that the arguments are made in bad faith.

not vetting claims leaps to Bad Faith - really Mets where was this finger wagging when Dems urged that we must hurry to anoint the next president and the courts agreed that time not evidence was THE most important thing.

Rudy Giuliani said during his rather famous media conference on November 19. “What we have asked for in court is to not have the certification of false results. And so to say, ‘Hold on a minute, we have evidence that we will present to the court.’ We haven’t had an opportunity yet to present that to the court,”

Cart before the Horse. Never got to court. Or to Answer BabyBlob: our courts perform the same function as Chinese courts in closing ranks to protect the institution of goverment no matter the cost. The judges decided on standings not evidence.

Here is one of my favorites

Claim: “Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes.”

Facts: This claim comes from yet another failed lawsuit.

It was included in an expert report for a case brought in Georgia state court aimed at decertifying the election results.

The person giving the report was Matt Braynard, who worked on Trump’s 2016 campaign and then ran a voter registration nonprofit and a consulting firm that promises to “deploy voter data on behalf of your cause or candidate.” Those two organizations shared an office in Washington, D.C., and the nonprofit’s tax-exempt status was revoked in May for failing to file its 990 forms.

In his report, Braynard claimed that thousands of illegal votes were counted in Georgia’s election.

He determined that 20,312 “absentee or early” ballots were cast by voters who didn’t satisfy the residency requirements by comparing Georgia’s list of voters with a national change-of-address database and other states’ voter rolls, according to the report. But Braynard didn’t explain how he had verified that the voters on the state’s list were the same as those on the other lists he was using.

Judge Jane Barwick dismissed the case on a technical issue — the plaintiff had sued the wrong people — in a ruling from the bench on Dec. 7.

The same report was submitted in another, similar lawsuit filed in federal court in Georgia. In that case, an expert rebuttal submitted by Democrats who joined the case said that Braynard’s claims didn’t meet scientific standards.

“Recent academic research on attempts to match voter registration records to other state’s voter files or to national lists, such as NCOA has shown that this task can be prone to high rates of error,” wrote Stephen Ansolabehere in his rebuttal. Ansolabehere is a professor of government at Harvard University and an expert on elections.

“Crosscheck, a collaboration of 28 states, matches people across states based on first name, last name, and date of birth. This approach has been determined to be unreliable because it yields a very high number of incorrect matches,” he wrote. “One study found that Crosscheck’s methodology identified almost 3 million ‘matching individuals who voted twice nationwide.’ All but 600 of these records were deemed to be false positives, in which the method says two people are the same but in fact they are not. For those 600 other cases, it could not be determined whether they were or were not the same individual.

“The Crosscheck experience suggests that it is quite easy to link records incorrectly when matching voter files to national lists (such as NCOA) or other states’ registration databases. This example underscores the need to disclose algorithms and provide evidence that there are no large numbers of false positives and false negatives. Matching on name and date of birth, as was done using Crosscheck, will likely produce huge numbers of false positives,” Ansolabehere wrote.

Judge Timothy Batten dismissed that case, also citing technical issues — standing and venue — on Dec. 7.

Merits and arguments about methodology - dismissed

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I am 100 percent lost on how a Drug case in China has anything to do with you trying to prove your case the American election was stolen. You want to link some car jacking cases in Peru while your at it? Maybe that will make your case?

It wasn't simply a drug case but rather courts holding out a threat to a challenge of the government's immunity. He was a pawn in a dirty trade.

[Jack Dracula]

not vetting claims leaps to Bad Faith - really Mets where was this finger wagging when Dems urged that we must hurry to anoint the next president and the courts agreed that time not evidence was THE most important thing.

Rudy Giuliani said during his rather famous media conference on November 19. “What we have asked for in court is to not have the certification of false results. And so to say, ‘Hold on a minute, we have evidence that we will present to the court.’ We haven’t had an opportunity yet to present that to the court,”

Cart before the Horse. Never got to court. Or to Answer BabyBlob: our courts perform the same function as Chinese courts in closing ranks to protect the institution of goverment no matter the cost. The judges decided on standings not evidence.

Here is one of my favorites


Merits and arguments about methodology - dismissed

Mabey the Judge looked it up on Wikipedia and discovered how ridiculously unreliable the Cross-Check program really is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...scheck_Program

[CaptainEurope]

I am sure the same people will make gobs of money for "improving your life"

If it were up to you, we'd still be waiting 20 minutes for a single porn picture to load on our phones.