All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Tendrin]

I'm an old man and I've never been a fan of the acronym "LOL" since my early days of internet chatting (usually go with "ha"), but I literally laughed out loud at the dinosaur thing.

You are not alone.

[Xheight]

If something is done legally using laws you don't like, this does mean the brilliant criminal is not guilty of a crime.

By this logic OJ Simpson was not guilty or a criminal. Hey you are allowed but what I am being asked to address extends beyond a courtroom even if courtrooms are the tools of the scam.

You're not identifying a law you think is broken. Your main examples were a group complaining about voter fraud that refused to share their evidence of fraud, and kept suing the wrong people.

Could the large number of cases have anything to do with perpetuating this Steal. I have said from the outset that this is as much about overwhelming as it is bogging down with details challenges to the integrity of the systems that add up to the overall system. What are we at 55+ cases of various quality? btw I have made case points to other posters but I am only one person and should underscore the idea of overwhelming the citizen POV.

We have debates about election policies all the time, and there are situations where people don't like current laws (the idea that state legislature determine their electoral boundaries, the electoral college, etc.) and they're open about how they would change the law.

a process that broke down in the Covid emergency rule making which was part of some of the suits brought, and hand waved away by judges.

The rule of law is important, and should be maintained by people bringing election suits. We wouldn't want a scenario where judges don't care about the letter of the law, and instead do whatever helps their preferred side.

Yes, it is important only in that encompass all of justice being legal and lawful and not use the letter of the law to shut down challenges to the system which isn't a partisan issue particularly but a self serving one none the less. This is part of the argument in the necessary role of juries to check the power of the system itself by having interests outside of the ruling classes. That is why this vile use of law is so offensive because it is a cynical use of power to justify its use of legal standing as power. It does provoke questions about the further utility of such a system when it is so used.

[Xheight]

Watching NBC and they reported that a judge late last night ruled against Trump and that the documents relating to the 6th must be turned over. Of course Trump is going to appeal this. The man and party with nothing to hide and want nothing more then the truth to come out are doing everything they can to keep everything hidden. Wonder why?

As if you never heard of select quotes and the court of public opinion. For the cancel sensitive I suppose that is just part of life to NOT ever say anything that could be misconstrued. stru that.

[Xheight]

The system was designed and implemented for 3 states only. The selection criteria is only name and birthdate. The number of false positives for 3 states was in the hundreds. Applying it to 27 states amplified the false positives to over 27,000. It is roundly considered by officials in both parties to be a failure..

As noted this is just a knock down to official oversight when the main fact that thousands in a state are not qualified. Fake gotya. It is why California resists auditing its rolls for citizenship to leave as many people in the system regardless of qualification.

[Xheight]

Remember,. it's only fraud if Democrats win.

well they do have the machine for it as they put the technocrat in Democrat consistently.

[CaptainEurope]

well they do have the machine for it as they put the technocrat in Democrat consistently.

Why are you even on Al Gore's Internet?

[Tendrin]

Why are you even on Al Gore's Internet?

Those libs aren't gonna own themselves you know.

[shooshoomanjoe]

Those libs aren't gonna own themselves you know.

'Self-own' is a job for the GOP.

[kidfresh512]

GOP billionaire Ken Langone says he will hold a fundraiser for Democrat Joe Manchin, who has worked to shrink Biden’s agenda

Republican billionaire Ken Langone says he plans to host a fundraiser for Sen. Joe Manchin after the conservative West Virginia Democrat blocked key elements of President Joe Biden’s agenda.

The comments came as Democrats in Congress continue to hash out major parts of Biden’s economic plans, namely social safety net spending and plans to battle climate change.

Langone, in an interview Wednesday with CNBC’s “Squawk Box”, praised Manchin for his “guts and courage” and explained that he was set to raise money for him. Manchin is up for reelection in 2024.

[Tami]

Arkansas attorney general Rutledge drops bid for governor

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Arkansas Attorney General Leslie Rutledge on Tuesday dropped her bid for governor, clearing former White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders’ path to the Republican nomination for the post.

Rutledge, who announced last year she was running for governor, said she would instead seek the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor.

Twitter comments suggest that she was bought off by Sarah's father.

[Xheight]

No Numbers and since this isn't a New thread this non-poll poll is to toss out a recent Pew Poll categories for those that do Self identify

The Republican:

Faith and Flag Conservatives (staunchly conservative, older, very active politically, overwhelmingly Christian, love Trump)

Committed Conservatives (educated, voted for Trump but not sure they want him back, RONALD REAGAN is their touchstone)

Populist Right (anti-immigration, pro-taxing the rich, rural, less educated, love Trump)

Ambivalent Right (younger, less religious, more moderate, don’t want Trump back)

Stressed Sideliners (mixed ideological views, financially stressed, not very politically engaged)

The Democrat:

Progressive Left: (BERNIE SANDERS and ELIZABETH WARREN fans with very liberal views, mostly white, young, highly educated)

Establishment Liberals (solidly liberal, highly educated, racially and ethnically diverse, favor compromise)

Democratic Mainstays (self-identify as moderate, biggest group in the Dem coalition, older, very diverse racially and ethnically)

Outsider Left (young and very liberal but don’t really like either party)

Stressed Sidelinersmixed ideological views, financially stressed, not very politically engaged)

Frankly I didn't feel comfortable with any label

[Xheight]

CNN actually reporting on a border crisis https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/10/europ...ntl/index.html

Sokolka, Poland (CNN)Migrants trapped on the border between Poland and Belarus have made hundreds of attempts to breach the frontier, but were repelled by 15,000 Polish soldiers deployed to stop them, according to Polish authorities.

The thousands of stranded people are caught at the center of an intensifying geopolitical dispute in which the European Union, the United States and NATO have accused Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko of manufacturing a migrant crisis on the EU's eastern frontier to destabilize the bloc as retribution for sanctions over human rights abuses. His government denies the claims, and instead blames the West for dangerous, sometimes fatal, border crossings and poor treatment of migrants.
The Polish border guard said it had recorded nearly 600 crossing attempts by migrants Tuesday, as well as "three large scale" efforts overnight into Wednesday, with more than 100 migrants in each group trying to breach the fence.

Poor Poland. Stay in your own country and solve your own problems even if it means revolution.

[Xheight]

So, this is the guy Xheight was defending earlier.

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1458165520293928960

WBE needs to listen to the whole interview. It's, uh ... got some interesting quotes for his profile. Definitely just defending himself against a 'woman tyrant'.

I don't have to defend him as he has lawyers for that - but what are the facts here not just strident statements; which btw aren't a crime. Was there evidence she was strangled like a police report or something more than he said she said.

Meanwhile, Parnell's lawyers pointed out that a judge had rejected Snell's request for a restraining order in 2018 based on two allegations she made that he had physically harmed their children.

crazy or crazy for a divorce

[Tami]

As Kyle Rittenhouse trial nears end, judge’s decisions from the bench come under scrutiny

Regardless of how he is viewed, Judge Bruce E. Schroeder is indisputably a man with fixed rules for how trials in his Kenosha County courtroom will be run. Some are basic, some unorthodox, and all reflect the experience of a jurist who believes trials can be too easily manipulated, particularly by the prosecution.

“For a jury trial, if you get him, you are happy as a defense attorney,” said Michael Cicchini, a criminal defense lawyer in Kenosha, Wis., who has appeared before Schroeder numerous times, including earlier this year. In that case, he won an acquittal for his client, who was charged with battery.

Schroeder’s reputation has some in Kenosha worried. The 75-year-old judge is running the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, now in its second week, which will determine if the 18-year-old who brought his assault rifle to town in August 2020 is guilty of homicide. Rittenhouse fatally shot two people and badly wounded a third during unrest that followed a police shooting.

The defense has already logged some wins in Schroeder’s courtroom. Gaige Grosskreutz, the man who survived Rittenhouse’s gunfire, took the witness stand for the prosecution, but acknowledged that he was pointing his gun at Rittenhouse when the teenager fired at him — a boost for Rittenhouse’s self-defense claim.

Then, as the prosecution rested its case on Tuesday, Schroeder dismissed a charge for his alleged failure to comply with curfew. The judge said he agreed with defense attorneys that the prosecution had not entered sufficient evidence to prove that a curfew was in effect the night Rittenhouse killed the two men.

Six counts remain against Rittenhouse, including first-degree reckless homicide, first-degree intentional homicide and attempted first-degree intentional homicide. If convicted, he faces life in prison.

“It seems like he’s aiming to let this man out of this courthouse scot-free and we’re not going to let that happen,” said Justin Blake, whose nephew Jacob Blake was shot by a police officer last year, triggering the nights of unrest that drew Rittenhouse to Kenosha. “If it happens, we’re not going to be quiet about it.”

[SUPERECWFAN1]

As Kyle Rittenhouse trial nears end, judge’s decisions from the bench come under scrutiny

Its sad but the same situations we have seen play out with...

George Zimmerman for years after.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...icle-1.3990414


Ethan Couch

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/02/us/et...ion/index.html



We should know how this will go down with Rittenhouse. This judge will let him go free and then later as this guy does things like the ones listed the people will act like they don't exist. Its how those who let Zimmerman go .