All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

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What links are you referring to?

In your last 25 posts, you've included two links.

One was a CNN article about migrants facing difficulties on the Poland- Belarus border.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/10/europ...ntl/index.html

And then there was a year old Ars Technica article about how 5G Broadband can help rural areas.
https://arstechnica.com/features/2020/09/5g-03-rural/

The Topic goes back further than 25 posts then but for you reading pleasure:

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...ect-Report.pdf

https://www.worldtribune.com/meet-on...intons-lawyer/

https://www.heritage.org/election-in...d-mail-ballots

[The Cool Thatguy]

The Topic goes back further than 25 posts then but for you reading pleasure:

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...ect-Report.pdf

https://www.worldtribune.com/meet-on...intons-lawyer/

https://www.heritage.org/election-in...d-mail-ballots

...have you even read the Time article? Just wondering.

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Basically Oliver described last year the insane , stupid process to just commit one vote fraud. To do it on a major scale is beyond comedy and the fact no Trump supporter has been able to really deliver facts the last year is one of the funniest parts of this. Everyone knows Trump lost , he lost by a big margin. But his supporters tend to do what NFL fans do when their teams lose. They can't handle the loss and can't handle it.

BS until 11:00 where he finally tries to address mail ballot security after a pile of arguments like it is popular or been done before and outright lies like difficulty of getting registration information which is collected by 3rd parties in drives to collect them. Meanwhile the Biden campaign employed Direct mail and Data science companies like Karen Olick of SKDK to work with such registration groups like the one the Staci Abrams heads up. This isn't just about targeting mailers.

[The Cool Thatguy]

BS until 11:00 where he finally tries to address mail ballot security after a pile of arguments like it is popular or been done before and outright lies like difficulty of getting registration information which is collected by 3rd parties in drives to collect them. Meanwhile the Biden campaign employed Direct mail and Data science companies like Karen Olick of SKDK to work with such registration groups like the one the Staci Abrams heads up. This isn't just about targeting mailers.

And your evidence is what, beyond 'begging the question'?

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Plotting much yes the fig leaf here is "stop the lies of Orange Man" not how can we make the system transparent. Mike Podhorzer especially acts as if he is just some old school labor leader while he is neck deep in Data Science debates.

[Malvolio]

Plotting much yes the fig leaf here is "stop the lies of Orange Man" not how can we make the system transparent. Mike Podhorzer especially acts as if he is just some old school labor leader while he is neck deep in Data Science debates.

Still no proof. Speculation that a thing could happen is not evidence that it has happened.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Still no proof. Speculation that a thing could happen is not evidence that it has happened.

I love how silent he is that so many people decided to work together because they knew how likely Trump was likely to commit a coup

[Gray Lensman]

I love how silent he is that so many people decided to work together because they knew how likely Trump was likely to commit a coup

No one who is crying about the "stolen election" has yet been able to come up with a plausible explanation for Biden being able to steal so many votes while failing to steal enough to take the Senate by more of a margin. You'd think he would have done a better job ensuring he had real control of Congress rather than merely "on paper".

[Robotman]

No one who is crying about the "stolen election" has yet been able to come up with a plausible explanation for Biden being able to steal so many votes while failing to steal enough to take the Senate by more of a margin. You'd think he would have done a better job ensuring he had real control of Congress rather than merely "on paper".

It’s all part of Hillary’s grand Machiavellian scheme.

[Mister Mets]

A false narrative to go with the false election; part and parcel. For one that calls out either/or moral evaluations like reasonable doubt you seem to be deploying much the same. Crosscheck isn't discredited nor is the finding of the GA votes as the attempt here has been to throw the baby out with the bathwater. It is not discredited by simply being barred from state's using it. That credits the state with a power it doesn't have for one.
Even at 75%(the wikipedia number for Crosscheck) we still have a 25% of people who should not be voting YET did. So is that not fraud? maybe that is too either/or for you but you would deny it to me and others? And clearly there is an inference being made as there are others that look in askance at the not just the election but at its review and see power protecting power.
I am not asking if that turned the election but by not accepting that into evidence because the case was never presented, again by inference, is the state blocking a challenge to the state's system of reckoning. How much more of Who watches the Watchmen do we need here to have confirmation that the State will not recognize extra-State oversight. ChadH btw never points to the Judge talking about Crosscheck in his ruling about standing so that is just speculation on an non-state system of checking who should rightfully voting and another break in your story of my argument. It is an intolerable idea in itself to the ACLU and the NGOs that love it so and so we have had filings to block actions and audits by anyone who is not sanctioned by the State on various tangents. We saw this explicitly in the AZ recount fight over the ninjas and not state officials doing the process of audit, when no conclusions were even made.

It would be nice if someone could show the evidence that Crosscheck works, or that the suit against Georgia was based on sound science.

If an effort makes mistakes 75% of the time, it's not reliable.

Crosscheck's use of loose matching standards lead to a high rate false positives: pairs of voter registration records lacking a match on SSN4 but who are identified as "potential duplicate registrants" by Crosscheck. Although false positives created a myriad of issues, the Kansas Secretary of State's office did not publicly release the percentage of their widely publicized "potential duplicate registrants" which were false positives. Independent researchers point to public data from Virginia's 2013 Annual Report on List Maintenance] which documented a 75% false positive rate.

If someone's wrong more than half the time, the response isn't to consider when they may be right, but to insist on some more accurate measurement.

It's also worth noting that a documented 75% false positive rate doesn't mean that the other 25% are all part of a voter fraud effort.

You've noted before the difficulties when one side gives overwhelming amounts of information and bogs down the details. It's troubling if the majority is verifiable bullshit, and someone citing worthless numbers asks about the other 25 percent.

[4saken1]

Appeals court temporarily blocks release of Trump's papers to the Jan 6 Commission.

Weird how Judges (Democratic appointments, at that) can be objective about this, but not in cases of unsubstantiated voter fraud allegations.......

[Tami]

Weird how Judges (Democratic appointments, at that) can be objective about this, but not in cases of unsubstantiated voter fraud allegations.......

I thought just about every one of the voter fraud allegation cases presented to a Judge in Court, regardless which side they lean towards, were all shot down.

What cases were not objectively handled?

[Mister Mets]

No one who is crying about the "stolen election" has yet been able to come up with a plausible explanation for Biden being able to steal so many votes while failing to steal enough to take the Senate by more of a margin. You'd think he would have done a better job ensuring he had real control of Congress rather than merely "on paper".

If I had to make bad-faith arguments, I would say Democrats didn't account for Susan Collins winning in Maine, or the guy in North Carolina having a sex scandal.

The Senate's bias in favor of rural voters gives less room to Democrats.

I do think a large effort to steal the election would be doomed to failure.

You need a lot of people involved in each state.

If one person decides that an effort to steal an election is immoral, or that this will be a way to reduce penalties for another crime prosecutors are going after them for, the plot fails when a sketchy politician is able to provide prosecutors a much bigger target.

If somehow all of the prosecutors in the Bill Barr-run justice department from November 2020-January 2021, and all the Republicans in state attorney generals offices throughout the country rejected clear evidence of fraud, I'm pretty sure Fox News would be happy to run with it. And if Fox News were in on the conspiracy, Newsmax and OAN are available. They report stuff with no merit whatsoever, so I think they would be happy to report on legitimate evidence of wrongdoing. And if they're not available, there's the internet as well as various newspapers funded by Republicans who would be ecstatic to have legitimate attacks on Biden, which are also relatively easy to prove given all the election-related paper trails.

[4saken1]

I thought just about every one of the voter fraud allegation cases presented to a Judge in Court, regardless which side they lean towards, were all shot down.

What cases were not objectively handled?

Sorry, sarcasm. Some people seem to only question judicial decisions when they disagree with said rulings, regardless of who they were appointed by.

[Tami]

Sorry, sarcasm. Some people seem to only question judicial decisions when they disagree with said rulings, regardless of who they were appointed by.

I'd also say that, when a Judge acts in a way that seems predictable based on who they were appointed by, that adds to the comments. Same in reverse.

The thing that makes news is when a Judge makes rulings in ways that are unexpected, ,at least by those who judge a Judge based solely on who appointed them and not on past behavior.