All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[The Cool Thatguy]

so real - the Steele The Trump Dossier: What We Know and Who Paid for It - The ...
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Oct 25, 2017The dossier has gained notoriety for its salacious, unproven claims about President Trump. Its research was funded by an unnamed Republican and then partly by Hillary Clinton's campaign."

The Steele dossier wasn't the entirety of the Russian investigation, thanks

[Mister Mets]

Mike Flynn just out and says it.

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/statu...84290444668931

This was a speech five years ago when someone familiar with military terminology described a successful outsider campaign.

[worstblogever]

How this man, an open and glaring disgrace to every man and woman who's ever worn the uniform of the Armed Forces ISN'T in prison is a wonder to me.

Trump pardoned him, is the answer. Because he's benefitted from Flynn's crimes.

[Tendrin]

This was a speech five years ago when someone familiar with military terminology described a successful outsider campaign.

Yep! Missed that it was in 2016.

Of course, he's said and done worse things since then and still belongs in prison, and has done incalculable harm to our democracy.

[numberthirty]

It's a gun not a knife. It works by pointing.

Literally in the title...

https://apnews.com/article/kyle-ritt...d3d8559632e3bb

Shooting victim says he was pointing his gun at Rittenhouse

A protester and volunteer medic wounded on the streets of Kenosha by Kyle Rittenhouse testified Monday that he was pointing his own gun at the rifle-toting Rittenhouse — unintentionally, he said — when the young man shot him.

While Grosskreutz said he never verbally threatened Rittenhouse, Chirafisi, the defense attorney, said that people don’t have to use words to threaten others. They can do so by their actions, “like running after them down the street with a loaded firearm,” Chirafisi said.

[Tami]

Here in NJ, Jack C just conceded to Murphy (Whew, thank goodness. I was afraid he'd try and turn NJ into another AZ debacle).

[BeastieRunner]

Here in NJ, Jack C just conceded to Murphy (Whew, thank goodness. I was afraid he'd try and turn NJ into another AZ debacle).

How you doin'?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Here in NJ, Jack C just conceded to Murphy (Whew, thank goodness. I was afraid he'd try and turn NJ into another AZ debacle).

Just heard about it an hour ago. From what I heard, Jack C trailed by some 65,000 votes, guess he saw the writing on the wall and gave up. I wonder if he’ll catch hell from Trump for not calling for an audit?

[Tami]

How you doin'?

We're doing okay, now that the election is over and Murphy won. Someone I know lost his Mayoral seat in a neighboring town, which was unexpected and sad. But that's about it.

[Tami]

Just heard about it an hour ago. From what I heard, Jack C trailed by some 65,000 votes, guess he saw the writing on the wall and gave up. I wonder if he’ll catch hell from Trump for not calling for an audit?

Not likely. Outside his property and golf courses, Trump has stayed away from NJ and NY.

[Xheight]

Aggregates matter. If someone says that thousands of votes were stolen, but they're provably wrong 75% of the time, it suggests their evidence sucks. Even if they're right about 25% of contested votes being illegitimate (which has not actually been established) the number is no longer enough to make a difference, and it also seems like the proposed fix will do more harm than good, eliminating more legitimate votes than illegitimate votes.

The question about 2020 isn't about whether any illegitimate ballots were cast, but about whether enough were cast to make a difference. Anything else is a distraction if you're trying to determine that the election was stolen. These are also claims where it would be bad to be wrong. If you think the election was stolen, and it wasn't, it would suggest a conspiratorial view of the world incompatible with actually understanding it. It means you shouldn't be taken seriously.

Don't recall the numbers but hypothetic if 5000 votes are snagged in GA and 1250 of those are correctly fakes you are saying that is not enough to tip GA? Maybe. Trump I think was looking for 11000 so 44000 fake ballots out of 7,233,584 is not so incredible to drop into the system to defraud it. That's like .6%

"Over 1.7 million absentee ballots were requested in the state for the November election, according to the U.S. Elections Project."

Control of the Senate isn't determined by popular vote, so there would be similar incentives to steal it.

If Democrats have the resources to steal Arizona and Georgia in the presidential race, why can't they steal Senate races in Iowa, Maine, North Carolina, or Alaska?

I didn't say it was but nor is presidency determined in the same way as the down ballot is though. It would in fact have to be a whole other operation as the tipping example shows above.

Speaks to the character of the party and how it follows a pattern of intention. Degrees of cheating don't add up always to a smoky room conspiracy but cumulative collusive behavior can amount to the same thing; that what Cartels are. Do we not take Cartels seriously?

What qualifications are you referring to?

I was simply referring to a qualified statement that was being blown up to one without it

[kidfresh512]

An Air Force sergeant killed himself on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. The note he left is heartbreaking.

Kenneth Omar Santiago’s perfect smile dazzles on social media as he poses in his Air Force uniforms — flight suits to mess dress.

He accepts military awards, travels to far-off places, salsa dances and swims with sharks to oohs and aahs from friends in Lowell, Mass., his hometown.

“He’s got it all,” more than one commented.

Before Veterans Day, he posted a 1,116 word message, his longest yet.

Then, in a green T-shirt with an American flag emblazoned across his chest, the 31-year-old walked to the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and shot himself.

Statistics tell us at least 16 other members of the military community also took their lives that Monday night and every night — the average daily toll — leading up to Veterans Day, when the nation thanks veterans for their service with a free 10-piece order of boneless chicken wings or a free doughnut.

Naveed Shah reposted a video of that helicopter landing when he saw it on social media.

It made Shah, an Army veteran and political director of the veteran’s group Common Defense, furious.

“In the past decade that I have spent in veterans advocacy, much has been done about the veterans suicide epidemic with few results,” Shah said. “Santiago’s death in this hallowed place, at this time of reverence for veterans, perhaps should provide pause for government officials and elected leaders in Washington to consider the impact 20 years of wars have had on our armed forces.”

Don’t Blame “Wokeness” On Democratic Losses

If there is one constant in American politics, it’s white people faulting Black people for their racism.

In the aftermath of Terry McAuliffe’s loss to Glenn Youngkin in last week’s Virginia gubernatorial race, famed Democratic political strategist James Carville blamed his party’s recent losses and weak performance in state elections on “stupid wokeness” in a recent interview with PBS NewsHour.

“What went wrong is just stupid wokeness,” Carville told host Judy Woodruff. “Don’t just look at Virginia and New Jersey. Look at Long Island, look at Buffalo, look at Minneapolis, even look at Seattle, Washington. I mean, this ‘defund the police’ lunacy, this take Abraham Lincoln’s name off of schools. I mean that — people see that.”

To Carville this all leads to a “suppressive effect all across the country on Democrats.”

It’s like Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter: “The average audience for people seriously using the word ‘woke’ in a 2021 political discussion are James Carville and Fox News pundits. So that should tell you all you need to know.”

But repetition doesn’t make something true no matter how much these Tony Chachere-sounding man and other clueless white people in the press keep trying. None of these white people have any clue what “woke” means when they use it. It’s just a euphemism for anything that points to racism and seemingly induces white guilt. Democrats can beat white fragility, but they must address it rather than blame us, the victims of prejudice.

Democrats like James Carville love to scapegoat Black people. But we don’t need people from the era of Bill Clinton telling us much of anything. Well, besides maybe an apology to Black folks.

Terry McAulliffe lost because he wasn’t a great candidate and that was evident in the fact that he barely won the gubernatorial race the first time. He should have stepped out of the way as advised so some of the other Black progressive candidates – including Black women arguably more qualified – could have run in his place. Is it Black folks’ fault that white people are that afraid of us?

Did we make McAulliffe say that silly thing out loud so those white suburban parents could hear him?

[MacrossPlus]

Steve Bannon has been Indicted by a Federal Grand Jury, charged with two counts of Contempt of Congress

[babyblob]

Steve Bannon has been Indicted by a Federal Grand Jury, charged with two counts of Contempt of Congress

Does this mean he will be arrested?

[AnakinFlair]

Steve Bannon has been Indicted by a Federal Grand Jury, charged with two counts of Contempt of Congress

Wonder if Meadows will be next.