All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So now Republican's are clutching their pearls because Sesame Street has introduced an Asian American Muppet.


But sure, the Republican Party doesn't have a problem with racism.

In looking I can't find the tweet. It appears the fool may have deleted it as he has to realize just how f'n bad this comes across. This is 2-3 days after a real success story in Jim Lee posted how he was going on the show to introduce the character. That he learned English from Sesame Street etc.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

So now Republican's are clutching their pearls because Sesame Street has introduced an Asian American Muppet.


But sure, the Republican Party doesn't have a problem with racism.

What took Qpublicans this long to get their panties in a bunch over that?

[Username taken]

This has to be one of the funniest clips ever.

Fox news is so determined to talk about stuff they don't like that they start to play themselves.

[Xheight]

There may be a motte and bailey issue here where some people arguing about January 6 move the goalposts.

It is one thing to say that there are legal questions regarding the use of emergency authority, and that this has implications on the results of the election.

It is another to suggest a conspiracy to fabricate enough votes to make a difference. For example, we argued a few days ago about a guy who sued Georgia claiming he found 20,312 ballots cast by people who didn't satisfy residency requirements, but he wasn't willing to tell the courts how he verified this, which is part of why his complaints were dismissed.

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...28#post5809928

I'll note I do really like the term "motte and bailey fallacy" as a way to describe a common strategy in political discussions.

There's a good description in another blog.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/0...-in-the-motte/

Too funny Philosopher Nicholas Shackel, who coined the term had a clear agenda of prioritizing scientific knowledge and the utility of limits above unprovable or as Popper would put it " advocating falsifiability as the criterion of demarcation for science,"

Popper explicitly allows for the fact that in practice a single conflicting or counter-instance is never sufficient methodologically for falsification, and that scientific theories are often retained even though much of the available evidence conflicts with them, or is anomalous with respect to them. Shackel's target was philosophers who showed that history demonstrates the social construction of science. The fallacy only exists in the logic of science which is constantly revising truth.

Statements can be justified only by other statements, and therefore testing comes to an end, not in the establishment of a correlation between propositional content and observable reality, as empiricism would hold, but by means of the conventional, inter-subjective acceptance of the truth of certain basic statements by the research community.

The acceptance of basic statements is compared by Popper to trial by jury: the verdict of the jury will be an agreement in accordance with the prevailing legal code and on the basis of the evidence presented, and is analogous to the acceptance of a basic statement by the research community:

By its decision, the jury accepts, by agreement, a statement about a factual occurrence—a basic statement, as it were. (2002: 92)

The jury’s verdict is conventional in arising out of a procedure governed by clear rules, and is an application of the legal system as a whole as it applies to the case in question. The verdict is accordingly represented as a true statement of fact, but, as miscarriages of justice demonstrate all too clearly,

the statement need not be true merely because the jury has accepted it. This … is acknowledged in the rule allowing a verdict to be quashed or revised. (2002: 92)

This is comparable, he argues, to the case of basic statements: their acceptance-as-true is also by agreement and, as such, it also constitutes an application of a theoretical system, and

it is only this application which makes any further applications of the theoretical system possible. (2002: 93)

However, the agreed acceptance of basic statements, like that of judicial verdicts, remain perennially susceptible to the requirement for further interrogation. Popper terms this “the relativity of basic statements” (2002: 86), which is reflective of the provisional nature of the entire corpus of scientific knowledge itself. Science does not, he maintains, rest upon any foundational bedrock. Rather, the theoretical systems of science are akin to buildings in swampy ground constructed with the support of piles:

The piles are driven down from above into the swamp, but not down to any natural or “given” base; and if we stop driving the piles deeper, it is not because we have reached firm ground. We simply stop when we are satisfied that the piles are firm enough to carry the structure, at least for the time being. (2002: 94) https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/

It is turtles all the way down. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

[Xheight]

That's probably a good thing, you go too far and you risk it coming off as a caricature. The important part is that they'll be featuring her Korean heritage on the show in an attempt to show kids that it's normal and no different than their own families thus attempting to fight Asian Hate...which is apparently a bad thing.

Well hating people is a thing to begin with but it smacks of everything morally programmatic that Sesame Street does which is where the talk shows step in for a laugh and hoot for a show that long ago departed from just teaching the golden rule to PC caricature.

[Tami]

*clip*

This has to be one of the funniest clips ever.

Fox news is so determined to talk about stuff they don't like that they start to play themselves.

That sounds like the 'Who's on First' Abbott and Costello routine.

[Tendrin]

Former Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard (R), who is serving a 28-month prison sentence on felony ethics charges, allegedly schemed to have language added to a prison bill during the legislature’s special session in September that would lead to his release.

Unfortunately for Hubbard, he couldn’t gather enough support for his proposed language in the Alabama Senate, so that plot went nowhere, state prosecutors allege in a new filing.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/mornin...labama-hubbard

[Tendrin]

Big yikes.

Governor Ron DeSantis’ (R-FL) press secretary, Christina Pushaw, linked the country of Georgia enacting a COVID “Green Pass” to a visit by a member of the Rothschild family on Wednesday.

The coronavirus pandemic has led to the emergence of various conspiracy theories, including many antisemitic ones, that falsely push the belief that individuals or groups are using the pandemic and public health responses to the pandemic to gain control over the public.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ro...schild-family/

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Jacob Chansley, a.k.a. the “QAnon Shaman” is going to the Big House, and I don’t mean the home stadium of the Michigan Wolverines:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/polit...ing/index.html

[babyblob]

Jacob Chansley, a.k.a. the “QAnon Shaman” is going to the Big House, and I don’t mean the home stadium of the Michigan Wolverines:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/polit...ing/index.html

This makes me happy! I hope this sets the tone for the other terrorists yet to be sentenced.

I dont buy his sad little I am so sorry speech. he is sorry he got caught, he is sorry his plot failed. Had things gone the way he wanted he would be cheering so loud right now. He accepts responsibility now because he has now choice. Before he was begging for a pardon and going on 60 minutes to make people feel sorry for him and defend what he did.

[Tami]

BREAKING: The FBI has RAIDED the home of Lauren Boebert's former campaign manager to investigate whether the associate took part in an election security breach involving voting machines.

How does that make you feel?

Twitter Link

[SUPERECWFAN1]

From basically being an asshole to start by wanting Donald Trump to give him a pardon , to going on a big hunger strike , to finally comparing himself to Gandhi now. To try and paint himself as that while in prison. Its just a sad excuse.

[Tami]

Trump gave an agency $100 million to fight Covid. Here’s what happened.

A federal agency that was run by a college friend of Jared Kushner and assigned $100 million to spend on fixing the Covid supply chain crunch has so far failed to invest a single dime, according to a new government watchdog report.

In 2020, the Trump administration directed the International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) to loan out $100 million in Pentagon funds through the CARES Act to "finance the domestic production of strategic resources needed to respond to the COVID-19 outbreak, and to strengthen any relevant domestic medical supply chains."

Companies were encouraged to apply for financial backing to help increase U.S. distribution of ventilators, vaccines, medical testing supplies, Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) and other relevant products. According to a new Government Accountability Office report, 178 applications flooded into the agency’s downtown Washington office but no money flowed out.

The agency’s portal for loan applications has now been paused and its authority to make Covid-related loans ends on March 26.

[Tami]

Man who raped four teenagers gets no jail time, judge says: ‘Incarceration isn’t appropriate’

What the .... huh?

A New York man who pleaded guilty to rape and sexual abuse for assaulting four teenage girls during parties at his parents’ home will not face jail time after a judge on Tuesday sentenced him to eight years probation.

Niagara County Court Judge Matthew J. Murphy III said he “agonized” over the case of 20-year-old Christopher Belter, who was accused of committing the crimes when he was 16 or 17. Belter pleaded guilty in 2019 to a series of felony charges that included third-degree rape and attempted first-degree sexual abuse, as well as two misdemeanor charges of second-degree sexual abuse.

Although Belter faced a maximum sentence of eight years in prison, Murphy concluded that jail time for the man “would be inappropriate” in a ruling that shocked the courtroom.

“I’m not ashamed to say that I actually prayed over what is the appropriate sentence in this case because there was great pain. There was great harm. There were multiple crimes committed in the case,” Murphy said, according to WKBW. “It seems to me that a sentence that involves incarceration or partial incarceration isn’t appropriate, so I am going to sentence you to probation.”

[JackDaw]

Man who raped four teenagers gets no jail time, judge says: ‘Incarceration isn’t appropriate’

What the .... huh?

“I prayed for guidance”

Always worrying when a judge takes that line.