All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Mister Mets]

Where is the lie exactly? They may have wanted to pull things back and where concerned about the optics to fence sitters but essentially they know it was was the right thing to do to stop the steal.

If they know for sure the election is stolen, they should be using their platforms to make that case and present the evidence which is so far missing.

[Mister Mets]

Fox News hosts blast House committee for releasing their Jan. 6 text messages to Meadows






This dude legit tried to say he is honest....

I'm surprised they addressed it at all though. Their viewers don't care if they are two faced liars and are exposed as such. Nothing ever happens to them. But, using it as another tool to bash Cheney as a "traitor" and disloyal works for the agenda I guess.

Addressing it makes sense. They see the viewers as rubes who don't bother to check whether their now-revealed private comments match what they said on air on January 6.

[Kirby101]

The FoxNews texts and emails really show they were considered part of the Trump Administration.

[BeastieRunner]

The FoxNews texts and emails really show they were considered part of the Trump Administration.

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Where are these!? I want to read them!

[seismic-2]

If they know for sure the election is stolen, they should be using their platforms to make that case and present the evidence which is so far missing.

Actually, instead of "using their platforms" to make their case, they should be presenting their evidence to law enforcement officials and to the courts. Oh wait, when they do that their claims are kicked out for lack of actual evidence. So yeah, they will have to rely on "using their platforms", i.e., posting to the Internet and going on right-wing TV and radio programs to repeat their "The election was stolen through fraud!" big lie.

[Kirby101]

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Where are these!? I want to read them!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mark-me...-capitol-riot/

[WestPhillyPunisher]

If they know for sure the election is stolen, they should be using their platforms to make that case and present the evidence which is so far missing.

The only evidence those loons have is Trump’s baseless claim that the election had been stolen from him. In fact, if memory serves, Trump primed the pump with the exact same bullshit back in 2016 when he thought he’d lose to Hillary Clinton, only he didn’t. Sadly. For a total narcissist like Trump who’s unable to accept any sort of defeat, screaming bloody murder he had been cheated was, and is the only card he has to play.

[BeastieRunner]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mark-me...-capitol-riot/

Thank you kind fellow.

[Tami]

They’re sick of masks’: Democratic governors fight Covid fatigue

But, at the same time, attendees here at the Democratic Governors Association’s winter meeting were nodding to voters’ frustrations with the enduring pandemic and its accompanying hardships, a potentially more contagious variant is emerging, and some blue states have reimposed mask mandates going into the holidays.

Asked in an interview about his November close call, New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy attributed it to “a lot of folks who are frustrated, is my guess.”

In his most candid assessment of his 3-point victory to date, Murphy said some New Jerseyans “feel like government is not connecting with them. They’re sick of masks, being told what to do in terms of vaccines, probably not thrilled with what they sense is going on in Washington, they may have lost a job or a business that went bust — or a loved one, worse yet.”

[WestPhillyPunisher]

They’re sick of masks’: Democratic governors fight Covid fatigue

My response? TOUGH! The virus is still here, people are still getting sick, and people are still dying. People need to stop whining about COVID fatigue because it’s not going anywhere anytime soon, if at all. People have to continue following rules that’s keeping them alive and out of the hospital and, subsequently, out of the grave.

[Tami]

My response? TOUGH! The virus is still here, people are still getting sick, and people are still dying. People need to stop whining about COVID fatigue because it’s not going anywhere anytime soon, if at all. People have to continue following rules that’s keeping them alive and out of the hospital and, subsequently, out of the grave.

Problem is, Governors can't simply say "Tough" to residents. They can try to reason with them, but reasonable or not, these are concerns that need to either be addressed or taken into consideration. That's why Politics gives you premature grey hair.

[babyblob]

The FoxNews texts and emails really show they were considered part of the Trump Administration.

Its funny how the two on Fox News are yelling about their privacy being violated and people dont have rights when they are fine running with a story from other people's leaked emails and texts. I say screw them. This shows what most people knew. They are two faced liars who will say what ever it takes to get ratings and suck up to a mindless base of QOP idiots for money and rating s and a vain attempt to get people to take them seriously.

[Tami]

Democrats’ $2 trillion spending plan in political peril as talks between Biden, Manchin appear to hit snag

A push by Senate Democrats to pass a roughly $2 trillion tax-and-spending measure before Christmas appeared in new political peril on Wednesday, as talks soured between President Biden and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) over the size and scope of the package.

The gaps between the two sides remain immense, with Biden seeking to safeguard his economic agenda from significant cuts while Manchin continues to insist on steep spending reductions, according to three people familiar with the matter who requested anonymity to describe the sensitive negotiations. The sticking points include the fate of the expanded child tax credit, one of the sources said, a Democratic priority that Manchin hopes to defund from the bill in full.

But the standoff over its future only reflects the growing divide between Biden and a member of his own party, even as the White House and Manchin continue to frame their private talks in positive, productive terms. Without his support, Senate Democrats simply lack the votes in the narrowly divided chamber to finalize their roughly $2 trillion proposal to overhaul the nation’s health care, education, climate, immigration and tax laws.

On Wednesday, Manchin swatted away questions about the negotiations, refusing at one point to address the child tax credit. His office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Speaking to reporters earlier in the day, White House principal deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Biden has had “two great conversations with [Manchin] this week that have been productive,” declining to share more about the scope of the talks. The White House did not immediately respond to requests for further comment.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Problem is, Governors can't simply say "Tough" to residents. They can try to reason with them, but reasonable or not, these are concerns that need to either be addressed or taken into consideration. That's why Politics gives you premature grey hair.

I know, I know. It’s just so damn frustrating people are acting like such selfish and ignorant children during a global health crisis that has cost the lives of millions and shows no sign of abating. I’m sure those governors are just as frustrated with this situation as I am, if not moreso.

[Tami]

Democrats' hopes dim that Build Back Better will pass before New Year

Democrats in the Senate are preparing to miss their self-imposed deadline to pass President Joe Biden’s $1.7 trillion social safety net bill before the end of the year, according to four sources familiar with planning by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s office.

The decision to try again next year is based on simple math — Schumer doesn’t have the 50 votes needed to pass the legislation thanks to Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who remains a hold out.