All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Kirby101]

only to clarify that would be the answer to your question.

I take it then, you have no problem with the police walking off the job because they will be held accountable for their actions.

[Jack Dracula]

Yes, cops are public servants who, when serving their duties competently, are gifted certain powers that regular civilians don’t enjoy.

But it’s wrong to think of it as “rights” in the sense of something that cannot be denied - it’s responsibilities.

And the thing about responsibilities is that they're a package deal of increased obligation and duty paired with power and privilege - a failure on one end of the package invalidates the rest of the package.

Or, to put it in other words, cops and police officers are to enforce a law they still operate under and are not above; they are given greater powers but also greater obligations, given more freedom of action but held to higher, more stringent standards alongside that freedom of action.

When an officer of the law fails at his responsibilities by maliciously abusing or even just incompetently and dangerously misusing his increased freedom of action, he has forfeited his protection from the law in his use of that freedom of action.

And in order for judgements about whether or not he’s forfeited his protection to be made, he must be subject to investigation, indictment, and trial.

Police unions and individual officers that have made the wrong choices here are treating mere investigation as a conviction. They are attempting to claim a privilege and power above the law. The more endemic and intertwined this inaccurate view of their station is, the more impetus there is to disband their current organizations and reform them entirely to reassert their subject-hood to the same rule of law they are to enforce.

Well said.

[InformationGeek]

Trump isn't done with DACA, wanting to take another go at destroying it.

BREAKING: President Trump says he will renew effort to end legal protections for young immigrants after Supreme Court blocked first try.

[Jack Dracula]

Trump isn't done with DACA, wanting to take another go at destroying it.

He wants to keep all of his white nationalist supporters engaged until November.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Trump isn't done with DACA, wanting to take another go at destroying it.

But he might not have time since I think SCOTUS is scheduled their session at the end of the month.

[Kirby101]

He will ignore the SCOTUS ruling and continue to deport DACA recipients.

[AnakinFlair]

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Trump Rips Supreme Court Ruling That Saves DACA: ‘Shotgun Blasts Into The Face’

The court ruled that the Trump administration’s decision to end the program was “arbitrary” and “capricious.” What a coincidence those are words Trump probably can't even pronounce, much less understand.
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Even better, at the time he was bitching on Twitter about the Supreme Court, he as actually in a meeting with small business owners who I believe were talking about how they have been impacted by the Corona virus. And there is video of him blatantly ignoring them as they speak while he plays around on his phone.

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...702156805?s=20

It was on this date in 2015 that "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" profiled a two-time loser in attempts to get into the U.S. Senate, World Wrestling Entertainment CEO and now former Cabinet Secretary of the Small Business Association, Linda McMahon, whose background as a recurring character within the WWE Universe (including storyline angles where she was cheated on, in a catatonic state, and “turning heel” by kicking announcers with medical ailments in the groin). Some of the shady business practices her company has made within the industry of professional wrestling over the past few decades include not just a widespread misuse of steroids distributed by company doctors in the 1980s, not just hiring wrestlers who had allegedly murdered their girlfriends, not just pressuring wrestlers to perform with concussions and likely exacerbating their progressive brain tissue’s destruction via CTE, not just permeated a culture of sexual harassment of female employees, but even allegedly covering up a sexual assault of a female wrestler on an overseas tour of Kuwait in 2007. Linda was a hopeless cause in multiple elections as she burned through millions of dollars of her own family’s fortune to try and win a Senate seat. After losses in both 2012 and 2014, both Linda and her outspoken husband, Vince McMahon seemed content to give up politics, but when WWE Hall of Fame member Donald Trump managed to win the White House, they called their old pal, and Linda was set up to run the Small Business Association, because he’s that insane and terrible at picking people for federal appointments. In any event, Linda McMahon was openly describing how chaotic and terrible it is working in the Trump administration and announced she would resign in May of 2019 from that position to run a Trump political PAC.

To be fair to Linda, Snuka was already working for the WWF when he murdered his girlfriend.

Got to say though, openly saying how terrible it is working in the Trump Administration, and then quitting to run a Trump political PAC.... man, she used to be the McMahon I liked.

[worstblogever]

Even better, at the time he was bitching on Twitter about the Supreme Court, he as actually in a meeting with small business owners who I believe were talking about how they have been impacted by the Corona virus. And there is video of him blatantly ignoring them as they speak while he plays around on his phone.

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...702156805?s=20




To be fair to Linda, Snuka was already working for the WWF when he murdered his girlfriend.

They kept signing him for appearances AFTER he murdered his girlfriend. For years.

[PaulBullion]

He will ignore the SCOTUS ruling and continue to deport DACA recipients.

Who'd stop him?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I got mocked by a few, the joke is on you guys, when I brought up the Purge in Atlanta and cops walking out. Not long after I posted and was mocked all the national media picked up on it so I obviously wasn't wrong.

Well it continued today and tonight. 1 officer, ONE, showed up in one of the districts this morning when there are normally 24-30 officers. The Blue Flue or mass exodus, whatever you want to call it, continued tonight despite the $500 bribe offered to all Atlanta cops today as a bonus - if you didn't see all Atlanta officers were given a bonus of $500 today. Hate the cops if you want. Fire them if you want for blu fluing / striking. You still have next to no cops in Atlanta and this is about to happen everywhere the way things are going. The cop haters and critics certainly aren't going to step up to the plate, despite their keyboard expertise, all while preaching about how they think the job should be done. Atlanta survived through the lies the Mayor told about having enough cops to cover calls but the reality is that over 500 911 calls went unanswered. The lie is exposed now and the criminals know there are no cops. How bad will it get tonight? I'll be happy if come tomorrow it things turn out okay come morning, I just wouldn't bet on it.

I remember telling a friend on FB who was like you was believing how justified the cops were to do this. But as I explained several points.


- Were all in favor of protesting things that are unjest. That if you do peaceful protest , do it at a time when it matters. Like if the Cops had done this during the day and protested outside the city Capitol etc. But here is where it falls apart , they were supposed to go to work. Being a police officer means a higher calling. Your to serve and protect your community. Its an oath you took as an officer to put that badge on and go about your duty. To perform at the best you can for the community.

By the police walking out they are basically spitting on that oath that pledged to do. They are saying , well the community doesn't matter because one of our own we feel for was unjustly charged so fuck everyone. Its all about US right now. Like they forgot the oath they took to do this.



- Also as I pointed out this doesn't help the overall department's image right now. People in that community will see groups of cops quitting and believe that these people didn't care for them and its all true etc. It did nothing to help the image of police department in that area with this action.



By not letting justice system play out and protesting on their off hours and walking off the job , they basically hurt the image of the department worse and neglected the oath they took to serve and protect.

[kidfresh512]

Senate Democrat candidates should make DACA a higher priority campaign issue I think. Doing something for the Dreamers is popular in polls the only ones really against it are GOP base and hardcore no more brown people racists. And its clear there needs to be a final legislative change made to protect them once and for all.

Voting is easy, GOP and trump have shown you where they stand. They want to put them in jeopardy. They lost and will try again to reverse it over and over until they get it approved. And the GOP will only take a hardline anti brown people approach in any legislation they actually would come up with if they were inclined to govern once in awhile.

[4saken1]

Who'd stop him?

Hopefully, a federal judge would issue an injunction. By the time it makes it through the courts (fingers crossed), the orange menace will be out of office and Biden could just reverse the decision.

[Spidey5640]

I take it then, you have no problem with the police walking off the job because they will be held accountable for their actions.

I have a problem with protesters that riot, that burn businesses, loot stores, kill innocent people and beat business owners who try to protect their life's work from destruction. Protesters who burn police police cars and assault officers with rocks, bottles and anything else that's handy. I have a problem with the liberal mayors and governors and police chiefs who lack the courage to protect the people of their cities from this violence, who threaten ordinary people with jail or other consequences fro gathering together in violation of their authoritarian covid mandates but then encourage and even join in with these protesters.

Policing is perhaps the ONLY profession where there is any accountability and it is actually done by members of the profession itself. Cops arrest cops. Unlike politicians and the media, cops actually face consequences for their actions when they are deemed wrong. You may think it should happen more than it does but that's just your viewpoint.

If cops walk off the job in Atlanta or anywhere else it's not because they don't want to be held accountable, it's because risking your life for people who hate them, don't support them and openly threaten them isn't worth it. Can't say I blame them. Give a world without cops a go, tell me how you like it.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I have a problem with protesters that riot, that burn businesses, loot stores, kill innocent people and beat business owners who try to protect their life's work from destruction. Protesters who burn police police cars and assault officers with rocks, bottles and anything else that's handy. I have a problem with the liberal mayors and governors and police chiefs who lack the courage to protect the people of their cities from this violence, who threaten ordinary people with jail or other consequences fro gathering together in violation of their authoritarian covid mandates but then encourage and even join in with these protesters.

Policing is perhaps the ONLY profession where there is any accountability and it is actually done by members of the profession itself. Cops arrest cops. Unlike politicians and the media, cops actually face consequences for their actions when they are deemed wrong. You may think it should happen more than it does but that's just your viewpoint.

I've seen too many egregious actions ignored by police unions to believe that punishment is anything more than the exception to the rule

[The Cool Thatguy]

Policing is perhaps the ONLY profession where there is any accountability and it is actually done by members of the profession itself. Cops arrest cops. Unlike politicians and the media, cops actually face consequences for their actions when they are deemed wrong. You may think it should happen more than it does but that's just your viewpoint.

Wait, what? All professions are held accountable to one degree or another.

And please don't act like cops being judged by other cops is a good thing.