All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Ozymandias]

This doesn't address your comments on denazification. Do you believe the Russian excuses on that to be accurate?

It does if you search for them and watch them. He clearly states that this is one of the goals, and everything I've seen (not on MSM ofc) corroborates the problem as very real. And urgent. One thing he doesn't disclose in the address, is how the number of explosions and ceasefire violations had increased dramatically over the Donbass, in the week leading to 24/2. And yes, that was the Ukrainians.

[Tendrin]

I don't find them funny. At all. And if you think numbers matter so much, watch some videos of the Maidan, the guy in the "conference" above knew very well what he was talking about. You obviously don't, because reality is a nuisance; jumping on the propaganda bandwagon is easier and if reality says otherwise you might have to get down, and walk.

The only person spouting propaganda in this thread is Putin's apologist. The rest of us aren't approving of war crimes, and didn't when it was the USA doing wrong either. Take it somewhere else.

You'll note, I never said that there were no far-right nationalisdts in Ukraine, or that nationalists weren't involved in the Maidan. Nationalists exist everywhere, but your inability to understand the role of right-wing nationalism in the invasion of Ukraine, Russian nationalism, is an enormous problem.

[CaptainEurope]

Pete Buttigieg explains the GOP attacks on the Trans community very well here:

https://twitter.com/chyeaok/status/1...PsrcRXTERKHoaQ

[Gray Lensman]

The only person spouting propaganda in this thread is Putin's apologist. The rest of us aren't approving of war crimes, and didn't when it was the USA doing wrong either. Take it somewhere else.

You'll note, I never said that there were no far-right nationalisdts in Ukraine, or that nationalists weren't involved in the Maidan. Nationalists exist everywhere, but your inability to understand the role of right-wing nationalism in the invasion of Ukraine, Russian nationalism, is an enormous problem.

Russia's border with NATO is about to triple over this war. Putin has won his earlier gambles, but he has sorely miscalculated this time. While the Russian military might still manage to hold on to some of their gains, the hit to their reputation is likely to be permanent. Too many more losses and only the nuclear threat will prevent other nations from sending in troops over territorial disputes.

[thwhtGuardian]

It does if you search for them and watch them. He clearly states that this is one of the goals, and everything I've seen (not on MSM ofc) corroborates the problem as very real. And urgent. One thing he doesn't disclose in the address, is how the number of explosions and ceasefire violations had increased dramatically over the Donbass, in the week leading to 24/2. And yes, that was the Ukrainians.

This is nuts...you actually buy the nazi thing???

[Zelena]

What is the US equivalent of sending tanks into Kyiv?

Invading Irak on the false pretext of WMD, I suppose…

Anyway, talking about the US when it’s actually about Russia is just rhetoric.

[CaptainEurope]

This is nuts...you actually buy the nazi thing???

I don't think anyone who can actually read and write buys it. They repeat it anyway, because something might stick.

[CaptainEurope]

Invading Irak on the false pretext of WMD, I suppose…

Not even close, at least Iraq was a dictatorship with massive human rights violation. Ukraine has democratically elected leaders.

[Zelena]

Not even close, at least Iraq was a dictatorship with massive human rights violation. Ukraine has democratically elected leaders.

In both cases, many civilians killed… It’s where I see the comparison. Big countries with a lot of big guns do big damages. It’s not a matter of who is the most virtuous.

[Dalak]

That is a change in goalposts from whether Dave Chapelle said something he knew to be untrue, or that was not meant to be taken as a joke.

There is a different question about whether comedians should be careful about their jokes because of the existence of people who are breathtakingly stupid. I'm not sure what the policy would be.

Dave made a joke he knows is going to inflame people, because he's done it before. He has to know about the anti-trans stuff going on and thus is deliberately stirring things up.

BTW When you say "Let the Voters decide" you are letting breathtakingly stupid people decide.

If people want to wear masks, that's fine. The N95 and KN95 masks (as well as the international equivalents) are pretty good at allowing people to protect themselves.

This remains a different question from whether the media should cover celebrities catching Covid.

They don't stop people from getting sick (like they didn't stop me). Vaccines don't stop people from getting Long Covid or dying. You've been told this and continue spreading misinformation anyway because you don't agree - just like someone who won't take a vaccine.

The argument isn't that kids are taught college-level material, but that these approaches have informed modern educators. That's relatively easy to demonstrate.

There are plenty of books about CRT in education.

No, that's your argument. The argument most widely spread is that they are teaching CRT at all levels of education. When asked how you could support it that's when you made this laughable argument.

Your arguing with a bigot, it's pointless.

Mets posts work as a recurring "friendly neighborhood bigot" joke, especially since he supposedly lives in NY.

Thoughts and prayers for him not ever being affected by the most radical GOP policies or good guy with a gun statistics while living in a blue state.

Can't let misinformation flow on unimpeded nowadays though, or else the breathtakingly stupid out there will eat it up whole and start convincing 'otherwise reasonable' people.

And I know Mets is a bigot or he wouldn't have likened teaching kids to respect LGBT to deadly diseases and a politician cheating on his wife to get spanked by a prostitute.

[Tendrin]

Oh, look. More proof that trans people are just ... trans.

Conservatives and assorted anti-trans reactionaries like to claim that trans kids don’t understand their own identities, and that almost all young trans people will eventually end up identifying with their birth gender. But a new study is blowing that assertion out of the water.

Published this month in the medical journal Pediatrics, it reveals the findings of a five-year longitudinal study of trans youth conducted by Princeton University’s Trans Youth Project. Out of more than 300 young trans-identifying people aged 3-12, only 2.5% identified as cisgender at the end of the five-year period, with 94% identifying as trans girls or boys and 3.5% identifying as nonbinary.

This stands in sharp contrast to inflated figures cited by anti-trans pundits, who often claim that a majority of trans youth will “detransition” and experience significant psychological distress as they return to presenting and living as their birth gender. (The Princeton team uses the term “retransition” in place of the more loaded term “detransition,” which other researchers have noted has “become associated with politically motivated attempts to impede access to gender-affirming care.”)

“These results suggest that retransitions are infrequent,” the Princeton study authors concluded. “More commonly, transgender youth who socially transitioned at early ages continued to identify that way.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...42ad85bd2d20a4

But I imagine that yet another study won't change the opinion of someone who can't acknowledge that his political party is married to anti-trans bigotry.

[Gray Lensman]

Invading Irak on the false pretext of WMD, I suppose…

Anyway, talking about the US when it’s actually about Russia is just rhetoric.

Speaking of Russia, it seems that their navy may have just lost another one, a frigate this time.

[Kirby101]

Is supporting Putin in the face of objective truth any different than supporting Trump?

[Catlady in training]

*Deep breath.*

Ukraine has been a puppet state since 2014. Europe wasn't under anyone's hold, they had needs and sought to fill them wherever they wanted. Russia offered a service which was OK with Europe until Ukraine started hijacking gas transit to Europe for economical gains. Germany asked for Nord Stream 2 to bypass Ukraine, Russia co-funded the project, which was quite expensive, and just when it was going online, the US starting pressuring Germany and after some resistance, they didn't grant approval on the 22nd of February, so it never came operative. I don't know what fossil fuel deposits Ukraine has, that threatened Russia. And Russia already had ports in the Black Sea.

1. WTF?
2. Ukraine doesn't threaten russia. They have vast natural resources that russia wants.

In both cases, he's talking about all the people who were left hanging out to dry. Starting with all the Russians in the Donbass who were now part of Ukraine. Did you watch the whole speech?

People who are left hanging are average russians who are robbed by their government.
As for russian minority in Ukraine:
1. They could leave to russia whenever they want.
2. They are among the people whom russian soldiers are now attacking. Good job protecting them, I guess.

Yeah, the biggest laugh is 'nazi ukranians!' when the president is Jewish and the far-right had a pathetic showing in their election, whereas far right russian nationalists/fascists are basically running the show in that country, all the way up to the enormous asshole that is Putin.

'but azov'. Please.

Fun fact, when Zelensky was elected president, Ukraine already had Jewish prime minister, which made them for the few months the only country to have both Jewish president and prime minister, apart from, obviously, Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Groysman

Some nazis.

[Catlady in training]

It does if you search for them and watch them. He clearly states that this is one of the goals, and everything I've seen (not on MSM ofc) corroborates the problem as very real. And urgent. One thing he doesn't disclose in the address, is how the number of explosions and ceasefire violations had increased dramatically over the Donbass, in the week leading to 24/2. And yes, that was the Ukrainians.

You understand how the FSB operates, right? Staged provocations, as we are now seeing in parts of Moldova, where they planned to attack next.