All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Ozymandias]

It really is *all his fault*.

By "his" meaning "Putin's".

I would never say there's no room for nuance, obviously.

No comment.

[CaptainEurope]

And Scott Ritter is pedo, and Assange a rapist... wait, they dropped that one since they got him out of the Ecuadorian embassy, right?

The rape allegations were never dropped by Assange's accusers, the Swedish government dropped the case because they felt he had hidden in the embassy for so long it would be impossible to hold a reasonable trial, considering witnesses memories and all that. But he remains credibly accused of ignoring women's consent.

[Ozymandias]

Victory day in Marioupol, 8 years ago (video on the top) and today (video on the bottom). I know many on this forum prefer to celebrate it in the midst of "freedom and democracy", but times have changed, not sorry:

https://t.me/levigodman/1698

Is it the same avenue?

[Ozymandias]

The rape allegations were never dropped by Assange's accusers, the Swedish government dropped the case because they felt he had hidden in the embassy for so long it would be impossible to hold a reasonable trial, considering witnesses memories and all that. But he remains credibly accused of ignoring women's consent.

Credibly according to who? Is there some poll or something?

[CaptainEurope]

Credibly according to whom? Is there some poll or something?

Accused separately of very similar MOs by two women who, years later, have never been revealed to have any kind of agenda.

I am definitely not in the #FreeAssange camp. He needs to face justice. He also is not a journalist, but a political activist who picks and chooses what Wikileaks publishes.

[Ozymandias]

Accused separately of very similar MOs by two women who, years later, have never been revealed to have any kind of agenda.

I am definitely not in the #FreeAssange camp. He needs to face justice. He also is not a journalist, but a political activist who picks and chooses what Wikileaks publishes.

No poll then.

[Dalak]

Credibly according to who? Is there some poll or something?

Pro Russian Propagandist carrying water for Assange? Say it ain't so! Whatever reason would Russian propagandists have to do that?

[Ozymandias]

Pro Russian Propagandist carrying water for Assange? Say it ain't so! Whatever reason would Russian propagandists have to do that?

Was that supposed to be...
... sarcastic and funny?
... serious but cryptic?
... none of the above

[Zelena]

Credibly according to who? Is there some poll or something?

To be cleared of any allegations, facing a court is the only way. It’s not a matter of poll.

[Ozymandias]

Half a million people protested in Kyiv alone. By comparison, 1 million people in Tahrir square collapsed the government of Egypt.

I don't know what aerial photos allow you to reach that number, or whether you are aggregating attendance over the many weeks the protests stayed there, but in any case, you were talking agency, something that if applied to a country, is called... democracy? People at the Euromaidan weren't a expression of democracy, but of popular dissent, which isn't democratic unless it follows the rules.

[Reviresco]

Credibly according to who? Is there some poll or something?

No poll then.

Where do you live where the 'credibility' of rape crimes are decided by polls?!

[Ozymandias]

To be cleared of any allegations, facing a court is the only way. It’s not a matter of poll.

The court desisted, so the statement "credibly accused" only has any meaning left but that of public opinion, AKA poll.

[Ozymandias]

Where do you live where the 'credibility' of rape crimes are decided by polls?!

Same response.

[CaptainEurope]

The court desisted, so the statement "credibly accused" only has any meaning left but that of public opinion, AKA poll.

That's not ho any of this works.

They were credible to the state, or he would not have been charged. When the investigation was ended, it was not done so because doubts about the allegations had surfaced.

[Reviresco]

The court desisted, so the statement "credibly accused" only has any meaning left but that of public opinion, AKA poll.

That's utter nonsense. Only in a sad male fantasy land are the credibility of rape charges, or any crime, decided by a poll.

That's not ho any of this works.

They were credible to the state, or he would not have been charged. When the investigation was ended, it was not done so because doubts about the allegations had surfaced.

Exactly.