All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[CaptainEurope]

And yes, 19 children is "mass destruction."

The good news for those cops is that they will find it very easy to find a new job once they admit they are not up to the one they currently have:

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Trump Endorses Kevin McCarthy, Pisses Off His Own Supporters

It's as I've said here several times before: kiss Trump's ass often enough, he'll go to bat for you, time after time after time....just as long as you continue smooching his rear end.

[numberthirty]

And yes, 19 children is "mass destruction."

The good news for those cops is that they will find it very easy to find a new job once they admit they are not up to the one they currently have:

Yeah...

Not like Biden is President during a time that is largely dictating that no matter what he does or anything.

It's like hearing Trump talk about how low fuel prices were during a pandemic where folks were being asked to stay home.

Neither one of them deserve much credit when it comes to fuel prices or jobs coming back.

What actually would be noteworthy is if Trump has somehow found a way to keep gas prices high during a shutdown or if Biden had found a way not to have jobs come back once folks were no longer staying at home.

[CaptainEurope]

The jobs growth is not related to the Corona aid package or the infrastructure bill, you heard it here first.

[PaulBullion]

By all means, 30, do not admit EVER that Biden has had successes. You would not want to cramp your style.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

By all means, 30, do not admit EVER that Biden has had successes. You would not want to cramp your style.

Well, at least 30 remains consistent. I can appreciate that.

[Tami]

Well, at least 30 remains consistent. I can appreciate that.

I saw something on Twitter about a shooting in Philly?

[Kirby101]

So Biden is responsible for the baby formula problem, but has nothing to do with the Economy? Interesting.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

I saw something on Twitter about a shooting in Philly?

Yeah, it happened near 3rd and South Street around 11:30 last night. One or more lunatics fired into a crowd of people as that area is plenty packed on a Saturday night.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...treet/3261464/

[babyblob]

The Governor of Ky Andy Beshear is doing a bit of political theatre to make the GOP look bad. At least in my head that is what the whole thing right now is about.

Kentucky is set to increase the gas tax by 2 Cents a gallon. Not a huge number at all and something that even the Governor's advisors say wont be a huge impact.

But Beshear held a Presser saying that in an effort to help Ky families he was going to stop the upcoming tax hike. Never said how much it was. Just used the scary term Tax Hike. Of course the GOP are going the "He doesnt have the power to do that. He legally cant do that we have to stop it." Because the GOP as we know is all about Law and Order. So they are filing paper work to start a suit to stop him from cancelling the "Tax Hike."

Now we know this is a country of sound bites and click bait. So the Dems in the state are doing a low key effort, (Not even making a huge issue just enough to get the click bait out there.) About how with gas near 5 bucks a gallon the GOP is stopping the Governor from halting the upcoming tax hike. Not giving that it is only 2 cents. GOP wants higher gas. The GOP wants to cost you money at the pump!

It is nice to see some of the Dems using the GOP tactic of the sound bite and click bait on what is really a non issue to make the GOP look a bit worse.

[Mister Mets]

Yes, thanks for the correction.
My point still stands that Sanders is far from being a pariah within the party.


The main argument is that the administration didn't "Shrug shoulders/Throw towel in" as was stated.



The plant in question was closed down when several babies became ill and two died. That being the result of poor manufacturing standards points out the necessity for strict regulations.
The President invoked emergency powers to address the crisis, part of that was relaxing the trade restrictions allowing Nestle to import formula from some European countries. Only one or two were temporarily prohibited due to the difference in nutritional labels. Again, two babies had already died due to negligent manufacturing. Vetting the quality of the emergency supply is just common sense.

What Joe Manchin wanted wasn't a secret, but his fellow Democrats didn't go for it, except with gimmicks.

https://www.slowboring.com/p/175-tri...f-money-to?s=r

There is no confirmation that problems at Abbott's plants are why two babies died.

I guess it comes back to your original statement - how do those moderates and centrists believe they are making the Democrat party better?

To me, it would be winning people over to your point of view. But instead I feel like these two particular Democrats are compromising.

Moderates generally already have people on their side.

Progressives would agree with moderates that it would be a good idea to spend a trillion dollars on Build Back Better. They would prefer to spend substantially more, but they still think it's better than zero.

The thing about that is it is not a legitimate concern. Not only is not not true, it has never been true. Not like the GOP are trying to say. Teachers are trying to turn your kids gay. Not even close to the truth. So no it is not a legitimate concern.

The point I was responding for was about why anyone would care.

Yeah...

Not like Biden is President during a time that is largely dictating that no matter what he does or anything.

It's like hearing Trump talk about how low fuel prices were during a pandemic where folks were being asked to stay home.

Neither one of them deserve much credit when it comes to fuel prices or jobs coming back.

What actually would be noteworthy is if Trump has somehow found a way to keep gas prices high during a shutdown or if Biden had found a way not to have jobs come back once folks were no longer staying at home.

I don't think Democrats want the accuracy of the meme to be a proxy for whether they should be trusted on other issues.

A potential problem is that it also creates perverse incentives going forward. There may very well be future pandemics. If it should happen close to an election, this type of criticism would encourage a President and their party to reject any temporary shutdown, or any incentives for people to stay home.

So Biden is responsible for the baby formula problem, but has nothing to do with the Economy? Interesting.

The economic growth is mainly due to the vaccine, as well as Coronavirus mutating into strands that cause less severe illness.

Biden's not responsible for the baby formula problem, but there are significant his administration and congressional Democrats made with something that was recognized as a problem months ago.

Biden says he was informed about it in April, but it was starting in February.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-fo...n-aware-april/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/busin...ges/index.html

[Kirby101]

Biden's not responsible for the baby formula problem, but there are significant his administration and congressional Democrats made with something that was recognized as a problem months ago.

Biden says he was informed about it in April, but it was starting in February.

You mean instantly renegotiate the bad trade deal Trump made? I guess they could have node that in a couple of weeks. Right trade policy can easily be turned on a dime.

https://fortune.com/2022/05/17/us-in...tariffs-usmca/

As part of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), negotiated by President Donald Trump to replace the North America Free Trade Agreement in July 2020, Canada agreed to impose an additional surcharge of $3/kg if the total volume of its global formula exports—not just exports to the U.S.—broke a certain threshold. That threshold is currently set at 40,480 metric tons for the current "dairy year" of August 1 2021 to July 31 2022.

The new duties seemingly closed off Canada as a source of infant formula. The U.S. imported a grand total of zero tons of baby formula from its nothern neighbor in 2021, yet has shipped tons of domestic formula into Canada. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, U.S.-manufactured infant formula made up the largest component of U.S. dairy exports to Canada in 2021, accounting for 22% of all northbound dairy trade.

[Tami]

‘From Russia With Love’: A Putin Ally Mines Gold and Plays Favorites in Sudan
: Backed by the Kremlin, the shadowy network known as the Wagner Group is getting rich in Sudan while helping the military to crush a democracy movement.

AL-IBEDIYYA, Sudan — In a scorched, gold-rich area 200 miles north of the Sudanese capital, where fortunes spring from desert-hewn rock, a mysterious foreign operator dominates the business.

Locals call it “The Russian Company” — a tightly guarded plant with shining towers, deep in the desert, that processes mounds of dusty ore into bars of semirefined gold.

“The Russians pay the best,” said Ammar al-Amir, a miner and community leader in al-Ibediyya, a hardscrabble mining town 10 miles from the plant. “Otherwise, we don’t know much about them.”

In fact, Sudanese company and government records show, the gold mine is one outpost of the Wagner Group, an opaque network of Russian mercenaries, mining companies and political influence operations — controlled by a close ally of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia — that is expanding aggressively across a swath of Africa.

Best known as a supplier of hired guns, Wagner has in recent years evolved into a far broader and more sophisticated tool of Kremlin power, according to experts and Western officials tracking its expansion. Rather than a single entity, Wagner has come to describe interlinked war-fighting, moneymaking and influence-peddling operations, low-cost and deniable, that serve Mr. Putin’s ambitions on a continent where support for Russia is relatively high.

Wagner emerged in 2014 as a band of Kremlin-backed mercenaries that supported Mr. Putin’s first foray into eastern Ukraine, and that later deployed to Syria. In recent months, at least 1,000 of its fighters have re-emerged in Ukraine, British intelligence has said.

The linchpin of Wagner’s operations, according to Western officials, is Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, a Russian oligarch known as “Putin’s chef” who was indicted in the United States on charges of meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

[numberthirty]

So Biden is responsible for the baby formula problem, but has nothing to do with the Economy? Interesting.

The Biden Administration is absolutely responsible for a rather basic function of Federal government getting to a "Yikes, this is a clear and obvious emergency situation..." state, yes.

Put any Republican administration in it's place, and ask yourself who you would blame.

As for the economy?

No. His administration is not responsible for a "Nuts..."/"Bolts..." return to something more like normal.

Gas going from the artificially low going price during 2020 to a price more like normal?

Again, that is what will happen when you shift from an unnatural situation to a more normal one.

[numberthirty]

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The economic growth is mainly due to the vaccine, as well as Coronavirus mutating into strands that cause less severe illness.

Biden's not responsible for the baby formula problem, but there are significant his administration and congressional Democrats made with something that was recognized as a problem months ago.

Biden says he was informed about it in April, but it was starting in February.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-fo...n-aware-april/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/busin...ges/index.html

Again, this is the "Basics 101..." stuff.

Make it the "Trump..."/"Bush..." administration, and ask yourself if you would be blaming them for an outfit with something pretty close to a "Potential Anti-Trust..." share of the market to create a nation-wide shortage if it happened the way this did.