All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Kirby101]

A gun in the car? I thought everyone was allowed to carry a gun now?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

A gun in the car? I thought everyone was allowed to carry a gun now?

Unless you’re a person of color, then pro-gun laws or the Second Amendment don’t apply to you.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

The establishment pretends that policing & militarism are separate issues from fascism & the crisis of democracy when we already know police & military are pipelines for far right groups. They take pains to gloss over the significant presence of police & military members on Jan 6. I'm surprised more people aren't worried about that. How many of these ass holes are in police/military uniforms?

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

This is a perfect example of how institutionalists enable fascism by prioritizing the preservation of institutions over the relief of human suffering. They aren’t motivated by a principled stance on either human rights or democracy b/c their concern is the preservation of power

@SecBecerra

: “Unless we’re all going to say the word of the Supreme Court will no longer have value, we have to heed the word of the Supreme Court.”

https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/sta...6Z9l1ly7SU9zEQ

[Tendrin]

CNN)Then-President Donald Trump angrily demanded to go to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and berated his protective detail when he didn't get his way, according to two Secret Service sources who say they heard about the incident from multiple agents, including the driver of the presidential SUV where it occurred.

The sources tell CNN that stories circulated about the incident -- including details that are similar to how former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson described it to the House select committee investigating January 6 -- in the months immediately afterward the US Capitol attack and before she testified this week.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/01/polit...ent/index.html

[AnakinFlair]

https://www.mosesandrooth.com/happen...fth-amendment/

I hope they do. Sadly we already have the Back the Blue Blue Lives matter crowd and their spin on this.

I knew these cops messed up when my aunt of all people said "Damn those cops deserve to go to prison for life."

There is NO spin for that atrocity, no way to gloss over what had been the assassination of an unarmed man, plain and simple.

It should be noted that in the same week, a man killed three officers and one police dog in Kentucky, and another man shot two sheriff's deputies and killed one in Bibb County, Alabama. Both suspects were brought in alive and relatively unharmed (the one in Kentucky got the **** kicked out of him). And in case you haven't already figured it out, both of those suspects were white.

[numberthirty]

It should be noted that in the same week, a man killed three officers and one police dog in Kentucky, and another man shot two sheriff's deputies and killed one in Bibb County, Alabama. Both suspects were brought in alive and relatively unharmed (the one in Kentucky got the **** kicked out of him). And in case you haven't already figured it out, both of those suspects were white.

Some pertinent details...

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2...n-the-run.html

Suspect in shooting of 2 Alabama sheriff’s deputies found hiding in tent

Northern District of Alabama U.S. Marshal Marty Keely said they received a tip on Hall’s possible whereabouts.

A team of six or seven law enforcement officers from various agencies approached the tent.

As they did, Hall yelled that he wasn’t armed and was taken into custody without incident. The arrest took place at 7:35 a.m.

I don't care if the guy is plaid. If that was actually the nature of what happened?

Anything except attempting to bring the guy(even though it looks like there is absolutely no reason that this guy should have been walking around free...) in reasonably unharmed would have been in straight up "Vigilante..." territory.

Again, there needs to be way less of that and throwing dozens of shots around. End of story.

[Kirby101]

Anything except attempting to bring the guy(even though it looks like there is absolutely no reason that this guy should have been walking around free...) in reasonably unharmed would have been in straight up "Vigilante..." territory.

Do you think he will see it?

[numberthirty]

Do you think he will see it?

Could you narrow down exactly who "He..." is supposed to be a little bit?

It's kind of hard to get it from what you posted.

[Tendrin]

I see 30 is on his contrarian bullshit again, apparently thinking what everyone wants is for the other guy to have been killed.

[numberthirty]

I see 30 is on his contrarian bullshit again, apparently thinking what everyone wants is for the other guy to have been killed.

Put simply, what you posted there is way off base...

Meanwhile, the actual reality of the three instances in question?

One of them really isn't anything like the other two.

The young man who was gunned down and the guy that took the beating after they attempted to serve the warrant?

Each one of those outcomes was a direct result of something being "In Progress..."

The guy in Alabama?

It was well after the fact with the cops completely having the drop on a person who had not done anything that day and was seemingly in the process of attempting to surrender without incident.

That guy that took the beating gets shot in what was seemingly a "Barricade..." situation where the cops probably had very good reason to suspect that he could still be a legitimate threat?

I don't like the idea of him being killed, but I can accept it as a potential outcome of that specific situation.

Someone who is surrounded by the cops well after something as taken place who was seemingly unarmed?

That person even coming in having taken a beating is entirely unacceptable.

That difference in the three situations was absolutely worth the mention.

[Tendrin]

It's not way off base, 30. All anyone is pointing out is that an unarmed black man gets shot at 60 times while a white guy can kill multiple officers and still gets taken alive. The disparity is real, even if the circumstances aren't one for one, and we know the disparity is real because it happens over and over and over again, your desire to be smugly contrarian nonwithstanding.

[numberthirty]

It's not way off base, 30. All anyone is pointing out is that an unarmed black man gets shot at 60 times while a white guy can kill multiple officers and still gets taken alive. The disparity is real, even if the circumstances aren't one for one, and we know the disparity is real because it happens over and over and over again, your desire to be smugly contrarian nonwithstanding.

Jeez...

Forget about "One..."/"One..." or "Apples..."/"Apples..."

The situation in Alabama is just about as "Night..."/"Day..." with the other two instances that it could potentially get.

The only scenario where he could even have come in banged up would be squarely in "Vigilante Justice..." territory.

I'm not telling anyone not to be angry about the clear difference.

It just makes right around "Zero..." sense to bring up an instance where someone was surrounded way later when they presented almost no threat and the inciting incident was long past, and put it into the same group as the other two instances where each one of them was the direct result of something still being in progress. It could not be any more different.

[Tendrin]

Jeez...

Forget about "One..."/"One..." or "Apples..."/"Apples..."

The situation in Alabama is just about as "Night..."/"Day..." with the other two instances that it could potentially get.

The only scenario where he could even have come in banged up would be squarely in "Vigilante Justice..." territory.

I'm not telling anyone not to be angry about the clear difference.

It just makes right around "Zero..." sense to bring up an instance where someone was surrounded way later when they presented almost no threat, and put it into the same group as the other two instances where each one of them was the direct result of something still being in progress. It could not be any more different.

Again: That's great! He should be taken alive. That's what we should endeavor to have happen. Except, weird how black men get executed at the first sign of a fidget in a lot of cases and are met with overwhelming, murderous violence when they're unarmed and considerably less dangerous. It's almost like there's something going on there and, while not a 1:1, it's pretty obvious where the very real frustration and feelings of systemic injustice are coming from, which is all anyone is expressing here. Your need to run in and try to pull some kind of misguided 'ACTUALLY!1111' is just facepalm inducing.

[numberthirty]

No telling where this one will wind up going, but it probably does not have the best odds. If anyone else has mentioned it up until now, I don't recall seeing it.

https://www.wbng.com/2022/06/29/sena...insulin-costs/

Senator Chuck Schumer reveals new plan to cut insulin costs

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer joined local public health officials Tuesday to reveal a new bipartisan plan to help lower the cost of insulin.

If enacted, Schumer says the new bill will cap costs for insulin at $35 per month and limit insulin manufacturers from raising prices.

He said about 1.7 million New Yorkers are living with diabetes. He said 60,000 of those people reside in the Southern Tier.

“It cost $1,000 a month for insulin and it’s a life saver. For people who have diabetes, they desperately need insulin,” said Schumer. “But, a lot of people now, one in four insulin users do not use their full doses because they cannot afford it, and that number is going up.”

Schumer said he hopes to bring the new bill to the floor and call for a vote in July.

The Improving Needed Safeguards for Users of Lifesaving Insulin Now, or INSULIN, Act will need 60 votes to pass in the Senate.