All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[kidfresh512]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...n-232-180-vote

House approves statehood for DC in 232-180 vote

So the capital of the USA should be the 51st state? Not going to happen on the senate's watch.

Do any of you support DC's statehood?

I support DC and Puerto Ricos statehood. They have bigger populations than other states and they deserve representation.

In Puerto Ricos case they get treated like second class citizens people dont even know they are Americans ffs. Either make them a state with full rights and access or let them go. Colonialism is over

[Rosa Luxemburg]

When black people are in pain, white people just join book clubs

[Kuro no Shinigami]

Absolute clusterfuck in Texas. Bumbling gross negligence by Gov Abbot. We opened far too soon, and he hamstrung local leaders and judges trying to order wearing masks and social distancing the whole way.

How'd we get here? Gov. Abbott pauses Texas reopening plan as cases continue to soar

Gov. Abbott: Bars must close at noon today, restaurants to reduce to 50%, outdoor gatherings limited

We have medical experts and trained professionals that advised this would happen from the start. They warned along with local leaders we were opening too early. They tried to take it locally and at least mandate masks in public. Abbot undermined them publicly and directly saying those were not enforceable.

These morons making mask wearing political are complicit in public ignoring and not practicing social distancing. There is absolutely no excuse for this to be a political issue. Especially if we were going to open early anyway. Should have taken the basic preventative steps . Now we have to go backwards to curb the spike. Because too many people are not taking any of it seriously. There is too much mixed messaging and from Trump on down turning basic public safety into a political left vs right issue is absolutely inexcusable.

Reopening too soon was not the problem. Lack of social distancing is the problem. Civil disobedience is the problem. This is what happens when people don't listen to the government but instead would go out to parties, protests, riots or rallies clustered together.

The reason why the covid infection rate is so low in Taiwan, South Korea and Japan is because the citizens there listen to what the authorities are telling them. Japanese and South Koreans are very conscious of their hygiene. They rarely shake hands, kiss or hug anyone aside from close family. They bathe or take a shower almost every day. South Korea has only 12,602 covid cases and Japan has only 18,000 covid cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/south-korea/

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/japan/

Taiwan has only 447 covid cases and 7 covid deaths. Taiwan had experience with SARS before. Taiwan doesn't have relations with China, so it doesn't receive Chinese citizens unless they are from Hong Kong or Macau. Taiwan authorities is closely monitoring the cellphone signals of the people who would break the stay-at-home order. They are able to mass produce a supply of face masks for the population.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/taiwan/

[Mister Mets]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...n-232-180-vote

House approves statehood for DC in 232-180 vote

So the capital of the USA should be the 51st state? Not going to happen on the senate's watch.

Do any of you support DC's statehood?

There is also an argument that DC statehood would require a constitutional amendment, so that fight is going to be a tough one even if a Democratic Senate is on-board under Biden.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...-dc-statehood/

One possibility is retrocession, to make the residential areas part of Maryland.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2018/1...sion-maryland/

That would resolve the fairness questions of giving representation to the residents of DC, while allowing the federal government to maintain control of its buildings.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says

And Trumpers will still kiss his ass, as Trump kisses Russia's ass

[skyvolt2000]

https://www.correctionsone.com/corre...U8oeA6CE2qBrx/

A photo of an apparent Tarrant County corrections officer claiming he graduated from training five weeks early has garnered criticism on social media, many saying that officers are being allowed to graduate without complete training.

The Tarrant County Sheriff’s Office responded to this claim, saying that the cadets are completing state requirements, but that the office typically hosts four additional weeks of their own training, which includes topics like defensive tactics, use of force, de-escalation and mental health.

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, 12 cadets have been placed in jails without completing the additional weeks but meeting state requirements. The state requirements also include training on defensive tactics, use of force and mental health. The office plans to offer the additional training at another time.

[Kuro no Shinigami]

Florida has over 8,900 new covid cases in one day.

According to the Worldometers data, South Korea has fewer than 60 new covid cases every day this week. Japan has no more than 86 new covid cases on June 25


June 26 (GMT)
39 new cases in South Korea

June 25
28 new cases and 1 new death in South Korea

June 24
51 new cases in South Korea

June 23
46 new cases and 1 new death in South Korea

June 22
17 new cases in South Korea

June 21
48 new cases in South Korea



June 25 (GMT)
86 new cases and 5 new deaths in Japan

June 24
56 new cases and 8 new deaths in Japan

June 23
52 new cases and 2 new deaths in Japan

June 22
52 new cases in Japan

June 21
65 new cases and 1 new death in Japan

[Gray Lensman]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...n-232-180-vote

House approves statehood for DC in 232-180 vote

So the capital of the USA should be the 51st state? Not going to happen on the senate's watch.

Do any of you support DC's statehood?

I do. Taxation without representation was the phrase behind the founding of the country. Inflicting it upon our own capital is terrible.

[KOSLOX]

Pffftttt damn, haha, look at that move baby. Ain't nothin' like it, I tell ya.

Yet again, I'm wondering why a single person in this thread ever gives any consideration to what Mets says.

[Mister Mets]

Politico looks at how Joe Biden has pretty much ignored the internet left.

Biden’s campaign is led by an older and whiter group of operatives who came of age during a political era when many Democrats saw large-scale protests for racial equality as inherently alienating to many white voters. In some quarters of the party, street protest brought back the traumas of 1968 and Nixon’s 32-state landslide.

“The first thought of someone my age is Nixon and law and order,” said an adviser to Biden, who is white and in his late 60s and admitted concern early on that the protests could benefit Trump. The person was granted anonymity in order to speak candidly. “But as long as we don’t have a reversion to looting and lawlessness, as long as it’s peaceful and about the inequality of society and the treatment of African Americans, this has seen a shift in Biden’s direction—and more than we thought it would be.”

Biden did not endorse the controversial activist slogan, steering clear of Trump’s attacks. On June 10, he wrote an op-ed for USA Today laying out his views on police reform and stated unequivocally, “I do not support defunding police.”

The spasms of vandalism and theft that marked some of the early protests have diminished, replaced by the targeted toppling of statues memorializing the Confederacy. Mitt Romney marched in Washington and said, “Black Lives Matter.” Polls reflected a seismic shift in the electorate’s attitudes: 76 percent of the public say racism and discrimination is a major problem, up from 68 percent in 2016. Seventy-one percent of white people agree. The Black Lives Matter movement now has majority support.

The expected revolt of white suburbanites against the protests hasn’t materialized. Instead, they’ve joined them.

“This is no longer a traditional wedge issue because all of a sudden white Americans, particularly college educated whites, understand that racism is real,” said Cornell Belcher, a veteran Democratic pollster who worked for Barack Obama. “Those white suburban women now understand that they have skin in the racism game as well. And that changes everything.”

But the question remains: What is Biden’s role as the Democratic nominee, as America reckons with racism?

Despite his consistent edge in polls, there are risks for Biden. Though he has endorsed banning chokeholds and reforming qualified immunity, his promotion of community policing has left activists and organizers in key states angry and concerned that he’s missing a moment to be bolder. Internally, Biden’s campaign is balancing how to best respond to the transformational demands of protesters while maintaining his commanding lead over Trump. Biden gained the lead by staying largely out of the spotlight as Trump has praised the “beautiful heritage” of the Confederacy and called protesters “thugs.”

If elected president, Biden must force a “frank, truthful, painstaking conversation” about America’s racism, said Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.).

“I'm not sure if he has the understanding, but he has to become a transcendental president,” Rush said. The opportunity is here; the question is, can he rise up to it?”

Dismissing the social media left
Biden’s advisers point out that racial justice is at the heart of why he’s running for president. He has often said that Trump’s 2017 comment praising “very fine people” at a pro-Nazi rally in Charlottesville is what pushed him into the 2020 race.

“He’s been very clear he wouldn’t be running unless Donald Trump were president,” said Symone Sanders, a senior adviser to Biden.

During the primaries, Biden bet everything on winning overwhelming support from African American voters, who eventually reversed the near collapse of his campaign in the first three states.

Biden’s advisers were often less attentive—and sometimes downright dismissive—of certain obsessions of the social media left. Biden did not discuss white privilege the way Kirsten Gillibrand did. He didn’t endorse reparations or the legalization of marijuana when some of his chief rivals did. He stubbornly insisted that the two most important primary constituencies were political moderates and older working-class African Americans, two groups without much influence online. The Biden campaign’s unspoken primary slogan could have been, “Twitter isn’t real life.”

This cautiousness and skepticism has spilled into the general election. One way to think of the Biden campaign’s navigation of racial issues is that he and his advisers care a lot more about addressing policy demands than they do about addressing cultural issues.

“There is a conversation that’s going on on Twitter that they don’t care about,” one Democratic strategist observed. “They won the primary by ignoring all of that. The Biden campaign does not care about the critical race theory-intersectional left that has taken over places like The New York Times. You can be against chokeholds and not believe in white fragility. You can be for reforming police departments and don’t necessarily have to believe that the United States is irredeemably racist.”

This is probably a better approach than making the voters choose between extreme policy preferences and Trump.

[Mister Mets]

Pffftttt damn, haha, look at that move baby. Ain't nothin' like it, I tell ya.

Do you think there's a problem in political discussions about people expressing ambivalence rather than certainty?

[kidfresh512]

https://twitter.com/joshfriedmanTX/s...009491456?s=20

We just got alerts on our phones telling us to stay our dumb asses in the house here in Houston.

[Tami]

You Want a Confederate Monument? My Body Is a Confederate Monument

[AnakinFlair]

Trump can't come to NJ, can't go to his Bedminster Golf Club. If he tried to, he'd have to Quarantine himself for 14 days.

Hasn't the White House already said that he has no intention of abiding by the Quarantine, since he is, and I quote, "Not a civilian"?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...n-232-180-vote

House approves statehood for DC in 232-180 vote

So the capital of the USA should be the 51st state? Not going to happen on the senate's watch.

Do any of you support DC's statehood?

I do support it, but it will never happen until Democrats control both the House, Senate, and White House. No way will Republicans allow the creation of what is sure to be a Democrat-controlled state.

[The no face guy]

Politico looks at how Joe Biden has pretty much ignored the internet left.



This is probably a better approach than making the voters choose between extreme policy preferences and Trump.

In today's era the left has become the moderate center party in the United states, and the right is out on the fringe, aka Donald Trump. All Biden really has to do is find a diverse (Preferably African American) VP, and run the gauntlet down the middle and he's won.

This is in no way like the Nixon era of 68, right wing nationalists like Steve Bannon are reading the general populous sentiment totally wrong, which is why Trump will lose.