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    CaptainEurope, we were talking before about islam/ muslims in Europe and I mentioned that obviously I know less about Germany than you do, but I think you’re aware that even Angela Merkel remarked that multiculturalism and integration has failed in Germany (too) - and she’s remarked this on more than one occasion:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ism-is-a-sham/

    “The speech that followed, however, may have surprised supporters of her policies: "Multiculturalism leads to parallel societies and therefore remains a ‘life lie,’ ” or a sham, she said”

    It’s not just about crimes as we focused on before (but also about crimes), it’s about recognizing the creation of parallel, segregated societies in much of Europe - which is ironically the main fuel for right-wing parties and their growth in several European countries the past few years, where before the right-wing in Europe was basically a fringe joke.

    Brushing this aside, of considering “that’s just xenophobia” is ignorant and doesn’t solve the problem. There’s a reason why the Paris terrorists were born in France/ Belgium, they weren’t immigrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    I am awaiting anyone from the Green Party to commend the Democrats and Biden for passing the biggest Climate Change bill in history. Or am I confused what they mean by Green?
    The bill is far from perfect, but is estimated to double the rate of switchover from fossil fuels from before the bill takes effect, even with the new drilling it allows. We shouldn't allow perfect to become the enemy of improvement. Channel that energy into fighting for the next improvement instead.

    To do otherwise is to become the a modern retelling of the fable about the greedy child and the jar of nuts.
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    Many of realize that more is needed. That the original BBB legislation would have been superior. But we are aware that this has to be done with a 50/50 Senate with zero GOP support and two recalcitrant Senators. We will take the win and keep moving forward.
    Who knows, the American voters may wake up and give us a couple of more Dem Senators so that we don't have to compromise as much. Not holding my breath though.
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    The Dems look like they have a real shot at an expanded senate majority, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyped78 View Post
    My previous comment was a bit of a joke, but reading your comment - if Trump is sentenced to jail, would Biden pardon him? How does that work?

    If Trump is old enough to run in 2024, he should also be old enough to do jail time, if convicted!
    Biden would not pardon him.
    The Democrats have moved on from exposing Trump's crimes and leaving it to the Republicans to follow through with punishment to basically telling the GOP base "F**k your feelings" and tacitly approving investigation and possible conviction by the DOJ.
    And make no mistake. The DOJ absolutely checked in with the White House before the FBI raid. Either for a wink of approval or just a "heads up, this is happening".
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    And there's been improvement in Biden's approval rating.

    Joe Biden Approval Rating Gets Boost—How Does it Compare to Trump's?
    https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-a...idency-1733007

    It's still low but a reversal has to start somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    The Dems look like they have a real shot at an expanded senate majority, yeah.
    Yep. Five Thirty Eight’s Senate model updated 17 hours ago:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...e/?cid=rrpromo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post
    And there's been improvement in Biden's approval rating.

    Joe Biden Approval Rating Gets Boost—How Does it Compare to Trump's?
    https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-a...idency-1733007

    It's still low but a reversal has to start somewhere.
    Changes in approval rating are rarely immediate. Most voters don't follow politics this closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zauriel View Post
    No, it is the Democrats who are splitting the vote of the Left. Instead of wooing the voters on the Left, the Democrats should try to split the vote of the Right with the Republicans.
    There is a time and place for the Green Party in American politics. This isn't it. Right now, they'd do more harm than good.
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    JK Rowling receives death threat over her support for Salman Rushdie:

    https://news.sky.com/story/jk-rowlin...shdie-12672229

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    There is a time and place for the Green Party in American politics. This isn't it. Right now, they'd do more harm than good.
    The time is a primary and the place is a local election with a relatively low turnout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    There is a time and place for the Green Party in American politics. This isn't it. Right now, they'd do more harm than good.
    It's also more effective in very specific contexts like in places that have ranked choice voting or in very progressive districts where splitting the vote won't be enough to help Republicans.
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    He has been, yes. January 6 if nothing else
    The general impression of traitors is someone who betrays the country to someone else. There is speculation and questions about Russia and Saudi Arabia, but it has yet to be proven.
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    GOP Talking points on the Trump raid and classified documents.

    He never had them.

    He had them but didnt know he had them because his staff packed up his offices.

    He never had them. FBI planted them.

    He had them but it was okay because all the presidents take stuff.

    He never had them. If he did why did they take so long to get them.

    He had them but all they had to do was ask and he would have given them back. They did ask and they came and got everything in June.

    If he had them why didnt they get them in June when they took other stuff (The other stuff they claim he never had)

    He did have them but it is okay because he declassified them.

    He never had them and Biden and the DOJ are making up lies to hurt him.

    He did have them. But the raid was not needed and an excuse for Biden and the DOJ to hurt him.


    So really. Which one of these will be the long term sticking point. because right now it goes from dayd to day hour to hour and what talking head/Trump associate is talking/GOP Law Maker is talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    GOP Talking points on the Trump raid and classified documents.

    He never had them.

    He had them but didnt know he had them because his staff packed up his offices.

    He never had them. FBI planted them.

    He had them but it was okay because all the presidents take stuff.

    He never had them. If he did why did they take so long to get them.

    He had them but all they had to do was ask and he would have given them back. They did ask and they came and got everything in June.

    If he had them why didnt they get them in June when they took other stuff (The other stuff they claim he never had)

    He did have them but it is okay because he declassified them.

    He never had them and Biden and the DOJ are making up lies to hurt him.

    He did have them. But the raid was not needed and an excuse for Biden and the DOJ to hurt him.


    So really. Which one of these will be the long term sticking point. because right now it goes from dayd to day hour to hour and what talking head/Trump associate is talking/GOP Law Maker is talking.
    You’re missing “what about Hillary’s e-mails” and “what about Hunter Biden’s laptop”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The general impression of traitors is someone who betrays the country to someone else. There is speculation and questions about Russia and Saudi Arabia, but it has yet to be proven.
    Overthrowing your own country's government for your own self interest is still treason.

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