All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Tendrin]

Ehrm... Bailey is a lesbian black Barrister who won her legal case against a claim that said she was transphobic:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-62294030

She is transphobic. And thank you for showing more to my point about how transphobia can slash across the usual cultural and political lines.

She won her case based on being *discriminated* against for her transphobia. She actually lost her case against Stonewall outright.

[hyped78]

-- Stonewall on the number of trans people in the UK.

Between 200 and 500 thousands people in a country of 67 million, and one fake trans-masc kid getting a chest binder is national news and that doesn't tell you *anything*.

Got it.

What does that have to do with anything? Are you criticizing that ONS doesn't know how many Trans people are in the UK, or that the the number of est. Trans people is relatively low and yet the Mermaids things is on the news?

Are you saying that news outlets should NOT report on the Mermaids situation and its official investigation?

[Tendrin]

What does that have to do with anything? Are you criticizing that ONS doesn't know how many Trans people are in the UK, or that the the number of est. Trans people is relatively low and yet the Mermaids things is on the news?

Are you saying that news outlets should NOT report on the Mermaids situation and its official investigation?

I'm sugestiing that maybe the elevation of transphobic concern trolling to national news and it's impact on the lives of actual trans people might be something you want to consider, especially in light of how powerful these people aren't, and how powerful the people targetting them are.

[hyped78]

She is transphobic. And thank you for showing more to my point about how transphobia can slash across the usual cultural and political lines.

She won her case based on being *discriminated* against for her transphobia. She actually lost her case against Stonewall outright.

Yes, that's correct (it's explained on the BBC link I posted above).

And obviously there are racists and transphobes on all sides of the political spectrum. But I think we can agree that there's more racists and transphobes on the right.

[hyped78]

I'm sugestiing that maybe the elevation of transphobic concern trolling to national news and it's impact on the lives of actual trans people might be something you want to consider, especially in light of how powerful these people aren't, and how powerful the people targetting them are.

"Trolling"? It's reporting on news and facts. Again, you haven't mentioned if anything (and what) on those articles is "trolling" or "transphobia", as opposite to those news outlets reporting on facts as they currently stand.

You are somehow suggesting a widespread conspiracy to report and "elevate" this on purpose. Like most conspiracy theories, that's lunacy. It seems like you just want the media to keep hush on some things you don't like.

And, again, it's not the main news - it's part of the assortment of national news, certainly behind the likes of Liz Truss and the economy, cost of living, Russia and many others (incl. hurricanes in Florida).

[Tendrin]

You are somehow suggesting a widespread conspiracy to report and "elevate" this on purpose. Like most conspiracy theories, that's lunacy.

I'm suggesting that the news media knows where its profit margins are and what generates it, unless I guess you didn't read the CNN article on how transphobic the UK press is. You really wanna tell me that the UK press hasn't been sensationalizing and concern trolling trans people in a country where the year by year rate of violence against trans people has been going up? You wanna tell me they don't play a part in that when they mainstream radicals suggesting team ups with white supremacists and give air time to folks who want to 'reduce the number of trans people because they're a huge problem'?

[hyped78]

I'm suggesting that the news media knows where its profit margins are and what generates it, unless I guess you didn't read the CNN article on how transphobic the UK press is. You really wanna tell me that the UK press hasn't been sensationalizing and concern trolling trans people in a country where the year by year rate of violence against trans people has been going up?

Two things:
- I honestly don't see/ read many articles about Trans folks in the UK media. Either there aren't that many, or they exist but they're relegated to secondary status, or I'm just not exposed/ don't click on them.
- I would like you to point out, in these articles about charity Mermaids, where you think they are being "transphobe" for reporting on that news?

"in a country where the year by year rate of violence against trans people has been going up?" - interestingly enough, I just googled "UK violence trans statistics" and the first article that popped up was:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...land-and-wales

The Guardian says:
"Trans people twice as likely to be victims of crime in England and Wales
ONS figures show 28% of trans people experienced crime compared with 14% of cis people"

The same Guardian that you (and Pink News?) accuse of being "transphobe" report on this. I guess there goes your argument.

[Tendrin]

... that the Guardian has mainstreamed and asserted gender crit stuff as fact is *documented* and caused protests. That the Guardian reported on increasing violence against trans people does *not* mean that they're never transphobic. Good lord.

[Tendrin]

Some great news out of India for a change:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...ndia-top-court

India’s Supreme Court has ruled that a woman’s lack of marital status cannot deny her the choice to abort a pregnancy at any time up to 24 weeks, a decision hailed by women’s rights activists.

The right to abortion has proved contentious globally after the United States Supreme Court overturned in June its landmark decision in Roe v Wade that had legalised the procedure in the US.

[hyped78]

... that the Guardian has mainstreamed and asserted gender crit stuff as fact is *documented* and caused protests. That the Guardian reported on increasing violence against trans people does *not* mean that they're never transphobic. Good lord.

Your CNN article does not refer the Guardian (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/09/u...cmd/index.html)

You and Pink News talk about a protest with about 10 people protesting outside of Guardian offices and bla bla. They can protest - it's within their democratic rights and they should stand up for what they believe in, I'm fine with all sorts of peaceful and democratic protests - that doesn't make the Guardian "transphobic". That's in your mind - just because they report and have opinion columns on things you don't like to hear/ read, it doesn't mean that they're "transphobic".

"caused protests" - you somehow consider that a protest means that the protesters are "right"? *cough* Jan. 6 Capitol *cough*

[Catlady in training]

Yup. Germany's most left leaning daily newspaper, the taz, has quite a few TERFS. in the newsroom.
Sahra Wagenknecht, the face of the socialist Die Linke party, is transphobic.

There is an entire genre of social media posts of transphobes who justify agreeing with pretty much every Nazi in the world on trans people's rights in spite of seeing themselves as left-leaning.

Left =/= liberal, FFS.

Isn't Die Linke like, openly socialist (no, I don't mean what Republicans call socialism, I mean what was understtod as socialism in Europe for decades) and in many cases, supporting fascist regimes like russia?

So open-mined.

[Catlady in training]

In more concerning news, Putler has signed scraps of paper stating that stolen parts of Ukraine are now part of the Terrorist state known as russia.

And on the anniversary of the Munich agreement, no less. This shitstain sure loves some symbolism.

[Catlady in training]

Conspiracy theories here are that either the US or the Russians did it. We might never know for sure...

Russia has already denied it, so it's 99% their work. How do you know a russian is lying? He opens his mouth.

[Tendrin]

Russia has already denied it, so it's 99% their work. How do you know a russian is lying? He opens his mouth.

Don't believe anything until the Kremlin denies it

-- @darthputinKGB.

[hyped78]

Left =/= liberal, FFS.

Isn't Die Linke like, openly socialist (no, I don't mean what Republicans call socialism, I mean what was understtod as socialism in Europe for decades) and in many cases, supporting fascist regimes like russia?

So open-mined.

Die Linke (The Left) is a Socialist party. Wagenknecht is a strange character, because on the one hand she is openly anti-capitalist, wants to dissolve NATO, etc., but then she has other positions that are somewhat outside of what most left-wing folks defend.

In more concerning news, Putler has signed scraps of paper stating that stolen parts of Ukraine are now part of the Terrorist state known as russia.

And on the anniversary of the Munich agreement, no less. This shitstain sure loves some symbolism.

Those referendums do the Venezuelan government proud.

Russia has already denied it, so it's 99% their work. How do you know a russian is lying? He opens his mouth.

While I'm not saying that the Russians did or didn't do it (I have no idea), it seems a bit strange that they would want to sabotage Nord Stream when Gazprom is the main shareholder of the company that manages the pipelines.

More concerning would be if the Russians target internet underwater cables.