All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[babyblob]

A GOP Candidate caught masturbating in his truck next to a preschool.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/arizo...b03e8038da457f

[Jimbi]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/circle-...nkId=186274783

Nice!!!

[hyped78]

Chris Cillizza’s The Point segment is also about Obama’s comments on “woke” stuff:
https://youtu.be/RtamzCWTrsU

I’d wish more Democrats - incl. many on this forum - would listen to Obama a bit more.

[Kirby101]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/circle-...nkId=186274783

Nice!!!

Believe me, it has been there for decades.

[shooshoomanjoe]

"I had no idea there were so many Socialists in the Republican Caucus."

-President Biden, just now speaking about the infrastructure bill, and how Republicans who voted against it are quietly calling him up begging for money for their districts.

I do love how Biden trolls republicans now and then. It's not professional but it's fun to see.

[AnakinFlair]

I do love how Biden trolls republicans now and then. It's not professional but it's fun to see.

Well, he did go on to say that he promised to be a President for ALL Americans, and that he would work with them etc, etc, etc. But yeah, I get a kick when he twists the knife just a little.

[Catlady in training]

That was a good one. And it touches on some of the issues that some people in this thread keep bringing up when they claim they care about kids (puberty blockers, "irreversible" damage).

ItÂ’s not available in the UK

I know someone from Canada said this channel is blocked for their location, maybe it's the same issue for UK? It works in EU, or at least in countries that I know of.
It's also easy to find via, you know, other means.

It is about only four weeks before midterms. It is too late now. The party in power doesn't have much time to fix the economy and change the voters' minds. The inflation crisis is going to influence the voters, especially in swing states.

Well it doesn't matter who wins the midterm elections, because nothing will change, regardless of the election outcome. The duopoly doesn't care about people. They care to enrich themselves and their wealthy benefactors in Wall Street

Economy isn't everything. I suggest you watch the video above to see just one of many examples where the parties are clearly not the same and have a vastly different impact on many people.

My preferences for the 2022 midterms.
House control= Republicans
Senate control= Republicans

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I don't know most of those people, so can't comment on that, but out of curiosity, why do you think that Republican majority in House and Senate would be better now? Do you want them to pass some specific bills, deal with the inflation in a different way, ... ?

I was speaking more generally that overturning an election isn't just a hallmark of fascism, it's also a hallmark of communism - it's a hallmark of dictatorships; in fact, in most cases they fully suppress elections rather than overturning them. There are very likely more examples of left-wing dictators doing that than right-wing dictators (both are bad).

The more one goes from the centre to either side, the more their tactics resemble one another. Horseshoe theory, I believe it's called.
Nazism, fascism, communism, it's all the same, they are extremist and dangerous ideologies.

Communist countries have certainly had issues with efficiency and resources (harder when your system isn't set up on impoverishing and exploiting much weaker countries to maintain a higher standard of living at home, stealing their resources while also often leveraging them into massive and inescapable debt cycles which prevents an interruption in the flow of said resources), but the public good was at least the stated goal (though, being run by human beings, corruption has also been a problem).

You clearly have some misguided understanding of communism, if you think it's any better than capitalism. It's a dictatorship that runs on lies, stealing and exploitation, though mostly of its own people. The people in power don't care for their citizens any more than in capitalism (in fact, it's probably much less in most cases, because they don't have to worry about their votes). Stated goals don't matter one bit, if the people in power say that goals have been met, they will act as if they have, regardless of the actual truth.

If you want to compare the living conditions in capitalistic and communist/socialist countries, you can look at the numbers of people who try their best to immigrate into them and the number of people who risk everything, including their lives trying to escape them. The numbers are overwhelmingly in favor of capitalism for both indicators.

Let's not confuse communism and socialism with social democracy, which might be the case here.
Speaking of, since the topic was Latino voters, I would have expected that those who are voting Republican because they fell for their fear-mongering about Democrats turning the country into socialist dictatorship, would know better. The risk of that happening is probably between 0 and 1%, on the other hand some Republicans are clearly in favor of creating their own version of dictatorship.

[scourge]

So Republican scum are proposing a national version of 'Don't Say Gay'...but its even worse.

Just another reason to keep the bigoted trash OUT of power.

[Mister Mets]

A group needn’t be hundreds of thousands strong or surround a cult figure if it has a few billionaires like the Koch’s standing with it. Not sure why you’re arguing against restoring some sanity to your party.

I don't think this would be effective.

The idea of a few billionaires trying to dictate policy is a different scenario than the one you posed earlier, which was more about a movement of moderate Republicans in general. This is a different question about how a handful of people might be able to use leverage.

Billionaires won't always be able to make a difference. They can spend a lot of money on advertising and hiring, but it doesn't mean they'll have messages that persuade a lot of people. The likeliest outcome will be overpaid consultants.

CNN had a story on Twitter about how Biden has spent a quarter of his Presidency so far working from Delaware- to which everyone replied "Yeah, he was WORKING. Not playing golf and overcharging the Secret Service to stay at his shitty hotels."



I hope this gets transcribed and released as a written book as well. I refuse to listen to that orange SOB's voice.

It also amazes me how often Trump let himself be interviewed by Woodward. I know these interviews were used for 'Rage', but that was his second or third book about Trump? You'd think Trump wouldn't talk to him again after the first book came out.

This raises an interesting question. Are there any good profiles of what Biden does in Delaware? It's entirely possible that he's working efficiently, two and a half hours by car (faster by helicopter or private plane) from Washington, able to return quickly if there's an emergency and able to host policy experts in a more intimate and relaxed environment. I'm curious if anyone is seriously making that claim, or if there's evidence they'd be right to do so.

Walkers debate performance never mattered to the GOP. he could have stood up there and cried and pissed himself and the GOP voters will still vote for him. It is not about the man, what he says or does. He ahs an R next to his name and that means he will own dem libs!

It seems to me he did okay.

The main viral moment was when he brought out the badge, although the response was more mixed than anything (people inclined not to like him see it as a prop, people who are primed to like him see it as evidence he's been honored by police groups for volunteer work.

There hasn't been much focus on other comments, so if there was anything politically toxic, left-wing media types aren't doing a great job getting the word out in an important election.

I was just laughing out loud at bothsiderism in general, but I'm not really surprised you decided to easily reply to my post instead of worstblogever's one directly before mine and directly addressed to you.

It defines what you are now. Feeling free to take cover and post at length for whatever indignities the GOP inflicts on their opponents as long as things aren't "THAT BAD", yet.

There's no obligation to respond or not to a particular post. I've responded plenty to WBE, and will likely do so in the future.

I do think the implication that Republicans are almost as bad as Nazis is not a persuasive one. It depends on whether it's taken seriously as a signal that someone doesn't like Republicans, or literally as a way to determine whether someone's political opinions are sensible. It seems like the type of thing that you wouldn't to have as a proxy for whether you should be trusted on other issues.

[Jimbi]

Seriously, Pittsburgh dad crack me up. "In the rule book it says the Steelers cannot score a touch down on their opening possession. Thou shall not touch Tom Brady. And, the Browns is the Browns."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg7m...=PittsburghDad

[Jimbi]

Shit... I need to get my ass to cicle K

[Jimbi]

Believe me, it has been there for decades.

Shit... I need to get my ass to cicle K

[CSTowle]

Are you aware of many Communist countries success stories?

Agree with the points you make on Latino voters.

Couple of things, one also applying to the quote below, didn't say that communism was the better way to go. Just that capitalism and the greed factor is why we don't care as much about updating infrastructure or making public places safe after knowing about the dangers of asbestos for decades.

Both can be bad, and I went out of my way to point out the bad under communism (again to address both quotes here). As far as success, depends on your definition. The USSR collapsed, but they also spent decades being undermined at every turn by the West. China is the world's second largest economy, and Cuba and Vietnam seem to be doing alright. At least compared to their neighbors.

Some might say, "well China is only successful because they're exploited by big business in the capitalist Western world". True, because both are s##tty systems. Our greed has led to gutting our manufacturing base. If it wasn't communist China it would have been India, or Africa, or somewhere else with a large enough population able to be exploited (still may end up that way).

Are we really the success story when our wealth was born from the extraction of the wealth, resources, and dignity of people too weak to fight back across the world for centuries continuously and to this day? I guess. If Catlady thinks that desperate people going where the resources are is a sign of our success, I guess. Of a type.

But you only have to look at the other countries in our hemisphere and our treatment, resource extraction, and political interference to see what chance anyone has when they're not even left alone to try and establish themselves. Then we get mad when they come here.

That was a good one. And it touches on some of the issues that some people in this thread keep bringing up when they claim they care about kids (puberty blockers, "irreversible" damage).



I know someone from Canada said this channel is blocked for their location, maybe it's the same issue for UK? It works in EU, or at least in countries that I know of.
It's also easy to find via, you know, other means.



Economy isn't everything. I suggest you watch the video above to see just one of many examples where the parties are clearly not the same and have a vastly different impact on many people.




I don't know most of those people, so can't comment on that, but out of curiosity, why do you think that Republican majority in House and Senate would be better now? Do you want them to pass some specific bills, deal with the inflation in a different way, ... ?




The more one goes from the centre to either side, the more their tactics resemble one another. Horseshoe theory, I believe it's called.
Nazism, fascism, communism, it's all the same, they are extremist and dangerous ideologies.



You clearly have some misguided understanding of communism, if you think it's any better than capitalism. It's a dictatorship that runs on lies, stealing and exploitation, though mostly of its own people. The people in power don't care for their citizens any more than in capitalism (in fact, it's probably much less in most cases, because they don't have to worry about their votes). Stated goals don't matter one bit, if the people in power say that goals have been met, they will act as if they have, regardless of the actual truth.

If you want to compare the living conditions in capitalistic and communist/socialist countries, you can look at the numbers of people who try their best to immigrate into them and the number of people who risk everything, including their lives trying to escape them. The numbers are overwhelmingly in favor of capitalism for both indicators.

Let's not confuse communism and socialism with social democracy, which might be the case here.
Speaking of, since the topic was Latino voters, I would have expected that those who are voting Republican because they fell for their fear-mongering about Democrats turning the country into socialist dictatorship, would know better. The risk of that happening is probably between 0 and 1%, on the other hand some Republicans are clearly in favor of creating their own version of dictatorship.

On communism/capitalism, see the above. First bolded: The economy isn't everything, but for most people it's the first thing. It's the thing to worry about first, putting food on your kid's table and having gas to get around and heat your home, and everything else. Without those things people will tend to care a lot less about other issues, and will be much more susceptible to bulls##t if the bulls##t promises them better times ahead. It is damned foolish to dismiss those concerns.

Second bolded: To my points above, so is capitalism. They're just less transparent about it, and again are willing to exploit the cheap labor in communist countries if that helps the bottom line. They've just learned the lesson I addressed in my first comment, that if people feel secure they're less likely to have an uprising. It's also easier to distract people with entertainment when you're not concerned with censoring anything critical of the government/State and instead simply filter it out at the source as not being "marketable". Subtle, smarter, just as evil (but hey, you get cool stuff!).

Third bolded: And I would like to say I wouldn't have expected such a condescending answer from a person who disagrees with Republicans, but honestly it's exactly what I'd expect. It's also why when folks on the left ask the question, "Why aren't they listening to us?" I'd ask "Why aren't you listening to them? Why are you projecting the worst motivations on them? Why can't you recognize that people might disagree with you for legitimate reasons, and they're not voting Red out of confusion or racism or hatred of their fellow man but because they truly think Team Red has the best ideas or at least outcomes overall?"

The answer to all of those questions is because we need to think we're always right, and that too often means we need to think anyone who disagrees with us is always wrong. Even better would be if they were stupid, or fearful, or easily confused and better still would be if they were inhuman monsters whose needs, motivations, and arguments could be dismissed out of hand. That's a comforting thought, and doesn't require much thinking beyond it. Keeps one safely in that smug little bubble.

[Jack Dracula]

I don't think this would be effective.

The idea of a few billionaires trying to dictate policy is a different scenario than the one you posed earlier, which was more about a movement of moderate Republicans in general. This is a different question about how a handful of people might be able to use leverage.

Billionaires won't always be able to make a difference. They can spend a lot of money on advertising and hiring, but it doesn't mean they'll have messages that persuade a lot of people. The likeliest outcome will be overpaid consultants.

I think I understand a little better how the crazies took over your party.

[Tami]

Dominionism Is on the Ballot in November, but Most Voters Have Never Heard of It

The NAR is an aggressive worldwide movement that promotes Seven Mountains dominionism, a belief that Christians have a mandate from God to control these “seven mountains” of society: 1. business, 2. government, 3. family, 4. religion, 5. media, 6. education, and 7. Entertainment.

Wallnau himself co-wrote a book titled, “Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountains Mandate.” The introduction to chapter 2 states, “How do we take over the world? We must have a strategy.” He even owns the 7M trademark.

As explained by Religion Dispatches, the NAR is “driven by theocratic notions of total societal dominion, including the end of democracy as we’ve known it.”

In July this year, during a Christian revival event inside a packed Georgia arena, Wallnau and three of his colleagues recited a hair raising decree, which stated in part that, “Whereas, we have been given legal power from heaven … We decree that our judicial system will issue rulings that are biblical and constitutional [and] We decree that we take back and permanently control positions of influence and leadership in each of the ‘Seven Mountains.’”