I mean, I know you think that, but it doesn't. What is illustrated is that I know the difference between sex and gender and you do not, and that you have some 'gender critical' and reactionary views.
Even you lengthy posts about Fallon Fox have an implicit bias. Besides, I see your Fallon Fox and raised a Caster Semenya earlier.
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Tell that to the trans women whose bone density is so much lower than their cisgendered counterparts.
Low bone mineral density was common in a group of transgender women receiving hormone therapy, according to findings from a recent Brazilian study.
“Lumbar spine density was lower than in reference men but similar to that of reference women,” said Tayane Muniz Fighera, MD, speaking at the annual meeting of the Endocrine Society.
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One of the things I really liked about the whole Rogan/ Shapiro/ Harris thing is that they can sit down for one to three hours and talk about things they may drastically disagree about without it getting into mud slinging and accusations of bigotry, etc. And without nitpicking every word as proof of something let alone proof of someone's entire attitude about something.
For example, someone said "tg men" meaning "men who have transgendered into women" instead of saying "tg women" or "women". Therefore you don't know what you are talking about because you didn't use the vocabulary of another group who have their socially acceptable vocabulary. I can't say much because I've been on the other side where people who accept the reality of evolution were using the lack of accepted terminology to ridicule a religious person without really confronting the arguments.
I've already been amendable to evidence that people born male who transgender into women are psychologically and in terms of brain patterns shown to be more in line with female than male. I also understand that being female and male is a scale, not an absolute one way or the other whether I preface every sentence with it or not. My only "gender critical" or "reactionary" views seem to be that TG women competing against women in certain sports is unfair to women.
In the context of that statement, I have to say "TG women" and "women" otherwise I am saying "Women competing against women is unfair" which makes no sense. Remove the context of strength differences and such or enter a context of everyday where that doesn't matter and I'll just say "women".
Power with Girl is better.
I think by "on point," he simply meant that conservatives are consistent in their arguments, regardless of how inaccurate they are.
And as for liberal pod-casters, I would suggest Hal Sparks, Bob Cesca or Jodie Hamilton. They're all well thought out, and when they tell a joke, you know it's a joke when they tell it, not later when they use "I was just making a joke" as an excuse for an insult the way so many conservatives do.
Watching television is not an activity.
Caster Semenya does appear to have XY chromsomes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/s...ents-show.html
There are some on the left willing to have lengthy discussions with people they disagree with. Ezra Klein does this frequently in his podcast.
Sincerely,
Thomas Mets
I will look this up and will, of course, be amendable to evidence.
Yes, the Fallon Fox situation may be an exception. Here's a quote from the first women who fought her in MMA.
https://bjj-world.com/transgender-mm...male-opponent/
“I’ve fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not because I’m not a doctor. I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right… I still disagree with Fox fighting. Any other job or career I say have a go at it, but when it comes to a combat sport I think it just isn’t fair.” – Tamika Brents said.
Again, that kind of advantage may not be typical. I'll look it up.
Power with Girl is better.
[QUOTE=Mister Mets;4972238]Caster Semenya does appear to have XY chromsomes.[\quote]
She is not 'biologically male', however. She may be intersex. If we're going to ban her on account of her genetics, when she's afab and intersex, then we have a lot of other people to ban on the basis of 'genetic advantage'.
You really have to zoom out and think about the bigger picture of how this fits within the greater civil rights landscape. Bigots like to focus on sports as one of the few advantages where marginalized groups might have a slight advantage, because unlike in broader society there is at least a clear set of rules that everyone has to abide by which means that the arbitrary standards used to exclude and undermine people don't work as well. Obviously a trans woman who has more testosterone and muscle mass will do better in a fight, and perhaps certain measures should be taken to ensure a more level playing field. But to hold up this issue which affects a handful of people at most as the reason why trans women are not really women and to implicitly argue for their continued degradation and marginalization from "normal" society is definitely throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Oorrrr the injuries she suffered are common injuries in MMA and we all know losing fighters never make excuses.
While you're at it, look up the trans woman cyclist who was treated like Fox after beating out a cis woman, even though she lost ten races before that to the cis woman.
Or all the trans athletes who FAIL to dominate, as most of them do. This is a case where if they win, it is because they are trans, and if they lose, no one gives a crap because you never hear about it, and people's assumptions of what they think they know takes over.
In fact, that very headline is a good example. The injuries suffered were... common.
Also, trans women tend to have testosterone levels due to HRT of around the same as cis women.
Absolutely, on the larger social scale, it affects too few people to be relevant. Yes, bigots will use sports to claim TG women are not "real" women. They will even use it to take shots at women and "put them in their place". "This is what happens when a man fights a woman".
I think the backlash is that you get someone who has been deeply involved in martial arts and knows there is a significant advantage saying so and they are suddenly a sexist or bigot of some kind simply for stating what they know. In other words, guilt by association. In this case, it is factual. BUT a bigot would say that and use it as a justification for bigotry so you are guilty and the same even if your motive is that it irritates you when people on any side ignore facts.
Power with Girl is better.
I am a liberal, so I am supportive of liberal issues like same sex marriage, cultural diversity, gun control ect, and I cannot stand either Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson. However, what I do not support is far left SJW arguments that are not grounded in empirical evidence.
As an example, despite their controversy I am generally sympathetic to the Black Lives Matter movement, because I am quite certain that you can provide the statistics and empirical evidence that black people’s civil rights are continually violated by white police officers, who hold racial biases against them.
I am not however for subjective arguments based on race or gender that are not supported by empirical evidence, because that is where the far left starts rearing its ugly head.
As an example, I read an article years ago, that was about interrogating the Lord of the Rings movie for its whiteness, in which the author reached the conclusion that Peter Jackson held unconscious racist views because the Uruk Hai orcs had dark skin, strong bodies and apparently dreadlocks that resembled black men. To my knowledge there simply isn’t a shred of evidence to support the claim that the Uruk Hai were to resemble black people either in Jackson’s film or Tolkien’s novel. Unless someone wants to correct me otherwise, Peter Jackson is not a racist, and this is left wing extremist nonsense.