All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[worstblogever]

Effort to pry Black voters from Democrats marks start of Republican convention



Thoughts?

They gave a spotlight to the McCloskeys, two terrible racist ***holes who pointed guns at peaceful BLM protesters because they can, and now are the "victims" because they were filmed being ***holes.

Last night wasn't about winning black voters. It was about convincing the white ones that the party isn't racist, and they should still vote for the ticket.

I don't even they accomplished that. But registered Republicans have been conditioned to be fanatically loyal, so maybe.

[PaulBullion]

Please explain how the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act, Medicaid, Fair Housing Laws, have hurt the Black community? The ACA reduced the unisured in the Black community from 25% to 13%. And what has the GOP done for Black people? Besides aligning themselves with the KKK?

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[shooshoomanjoe]

They helped outlaw slavery over a hundred years ago. What more do they need to do?

That was when republicans were liberals. Conservatives simply don't like helping non whites.

[Kirby101]

The GOP is still voting against Anti-Lynching Laws. In 2020! Think about that, they are voting against anti-lynching laws.

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Trump has literally made redlining a part of his re-election.

I don't see how that appeals to minorities that make up a larger part of the poor population.

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They gave a spotlight to the McCloskeys, two terrible racist ***holes who pointed guns at peaceful BLM protesters because they can, and now are the "victims" because they were filmed being ***holes.

Last night wasn't about winning black voters. It was about convincing the white ones that the party isn't racist, and they should still vote for the ticket.

I don't even they accomplished that. But registered Republicans have been conditioned to be fanatically loyal, so maybe.

Exactly.

Nikki Hayley saying that "America is not a racist country" isn't playing well at all considering she herself said she had been discriminated against.

[TriggerWarning]

Please explain how the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act, Medicaid, Fair Housing Laws, have hurt the Black community? The ACA reduced the unisured in the Black community from 25% to 13%. And what has the GOP done for Black people? Besides aligning themselves with the KKK?

When you have to go back 40 to 50 years to find things the democrats have done for minorities you basically make my point. What happened 50 years ago isn't relevant to current politics today anymore than the stupid republican talking point about the democrats being the founders of the KKK is relevant. Things change over the decades and directions of parties change.

Lets consider the crime bills of the 90's pushed by Joe Biden and signed by Bill Clinton who are wait for it . . . . democrats. Those are blamed for the mass incarceration of blacks that continues today. Biden was taken to task during the primaries as was Hilary Clinton in 2016. Then when they got the nomination all the liberals were "oh wait, just kidding we like you again now."

Democrats are also indirectly causing the increasing murder and death of black people Democrats also push false narratives about police that the police are out to kill black people and are racist against them for disproportionately arresting them and then show out of context stats to prove this by saying that X% of blacks are in the prison system despite only being 13% of the population. What they don't say and scream racism at anyone who does is that the prison population is both a result of their own policies (the crime bill of the democrats in the 90's) and the disproportionate amount of crime committed by black males in this country. Black males make up 6.5% of the population yet year after year commit between 50 and 60% of the murders and robberies. So of course they are going to prison at a higher rate because they are committing the offenses most likely to land you in prison at a much higher rate. Here are the 2018 crime states by the FBI. Well over 90% of murders are by males so I'm using males here by default. Black males committed 53% of the murders and 54% of the robberies. They also committed disproportionately higher rates of other major crimes as well. "Oh but thats only because the police are racist and only arrest black people" is a common refute. Except that its statistically proven year after year year most crimes and especially murder are done within the same race, blacks kill blacks and whites kill whites etc. The race % of victims of murders closely matches the % of race of the murderers themselves and you can't fake the race of the victims. What this has caused is all the blowback we are seeing this year over police incidents which has the effect of causing police to back off and then you see skyrocketing murder rates in the black communities. Shootings and murders of black people by other black people have as much as doubled in places like Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore, New York, etc since George Floyd and the protests began. And this is 100% IMO caused by the false narrative that democrats push that the police are out there murdering black men every day just because they are black. Here is the FBI crime chart for 2018 since many refuse to believe stats on race and crime unless they see it: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-43

Democrats have also enabled a culture of poverty which permeates the black community. This has led to the hopelessness and generational poverty that continues with no hopes of getting out. Which in turn is what drives some black male teens into gangs which is where most of the black on black crime comes from. Do republicans have great solutions? No not really. But its sure as hell obvious that the democrats are making it worse.

[The Cool Thatguy]

When you have to go back 40 to 50 years to find things the democrats have done for minorities you basically make my point. What happened 50 years ago isn't relevant to current politics today anymore than the stupid republican talking point about the democrats being the founders of the KKK is relevant. Things change over the decades and directions of parties change.

Lets consider the crime bills of the 90's pushed by Joe Biden and signed by Bill Clinton who are wait for it . . . . democrats. Those are blamed for the mass incarceration of blacks that continues today. Biden was taken to task during the primaries as was Hilary Clinton in 2016. Then when they got the nomination all the liberals were "oh wait, just kidding we like you again now."

Democrats are also indirectly causing the increasing murder and death of black people Democrats also push false narratives about police that the police are out to kill black people and are racist against them for disproportionately arresting them and then show out of context stats to prove this by saying that X% of blacks are in the prison system despite only being 13% of the population. What they don't say and scream racism at anyone who does is that the prison population is both a result of their own policies (the crime bill of the democrats in the 90's) and the disproportionate amount of crime committed by black males in this country. Black males make up 6.5% of the population yet year after year commit between 50 and 60% of the murders and robberies. So of course they are going to prison at a higher rate because they are committing the offenses most likely to land you in prison at a much higher rate. Here are the 2018 crime states by the FBI. Well over 90% of murders are by males so I'm using males here by default. Black males committed 53% of the murders and 54% of the robberies. They also committed disproportionately higher rates of other major crimes as well. "Oh but thats only because the police are racist and only arrest black people" is a common refute. Except that its statistically proven year after year year most crimes and especially murder are done within the same race, blacks kill blacks and whites kill whites etc. The race % of victims of murders closely matches the % of race of the murderers themselves and you can't fake the race of the victims. What this has caused is all the blowback we are seeing this year over police incidents which has the effect of causing police to back off and then you see skyrocketing murder rates in the black communities. Shootings and murders of black people by other black people have as much as doubled in places like Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore, New York, etc since George Floyd and the protests began. And this is 100% IMO caused by the false narrative that democrats push that the police are out there murdering black men every day just because they are black. Here is the FBI crime chart for 2018 since many refuse to believe stats on race and crime unless they see it: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-43

Democrats have also enabled a culture of poverty which permeates the black community. This has led to the hopelessness and generational poverty that continues with no hopes of getting out. Which in turn is what drives some black male teens into gangs which is where most of the black on black crime comes from. Do republicans have great solutions? No not really. But its sure as hell obvious that the democrats are making it worse.

You laugh at the democrats going back 50 years, yet the Republicans have to go back to freakin' slavery for a civil rights accomplishment.

Which party proudly elected an African American president, and which elected the racist that hounded him?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Effort to pry Black voters from Democrats marks start of Republican convention



Thoughts?

Speaking as a black man, I find that to be pure, unadulterated bullshit. Republicans haven’t done a goddamn thing to help people like me, if anything, the GOP has been hellbent on turning the clock back about a hundred years by trying to kill the Civil Rights Act, denying us proper healthcare (still haven’t seen that magic program Trump touts as the replacement for the ACA), trying to take away our hard earned right to vote, meanwhile, blacks still have bullseyes on our backs as cops all but have free rein to gun down innocents in their beds, pump lead into the backs of men as they flee for their lives and literally crush the life out of us as was the case with George Floyd. Traitors like Scott and Klasik were just spewing Republican talking points designed to make their all too white and aggrieved base feel good for thinking they’re handing out an olive branch to the bruthas and sistahs in the hope we’ll happily accept whatever Trump and the GOP offers. Sorry, but that dog don’t hunt, we’ve already seen what four years of Trump has done to minorities, and it hasn’t been good, we damn sure don’t want a repeat performance.

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Speaking as a black man, I find that to be pure, unadulterated bullshit. Republicans haven’t done a goddamn thing to help people like me, if anything, the GOP has been hellbent on turning the clock back about a hundred years by trying to kill the Civil Rights Act, denying us proper healthcare (still haven’t seen that magic program Trump touts as the replacement for the ACA), trying to take away our hard earned right to vote, meanwhile, blacks still have bullseyes on our backs as cops all but have free rein to gun down innocents in their beds, pump lead into the backs of men as they flee for their lives and literally crush the life out of us as was the case with George Floyd. Traitors like Scott and Klasik were just spewing Republican talking points designed to make their all too white and aggrieved base feel good for thinking they’re handing out an olive branch to the bruthas and sistahs in the hope we’ll happily accept whatever Trump and the GOP offers. Sorry, but that dog don’t hunt, we’ve already seen what four years of Trump has done to minorities, and it hasn’t been good, we damn sure don’t want a repeat performance.

Quoted in agreement.

[worstblogever]

One party elevates the voices of people of color and has rallied around diversity, and equality. It doesn't just LISTEN to them, it elects them. It supports working rights, and opportunities for the economically disadvantaged, who because of baked-in racial inequality, are proportionately those people. It also continues to protect their voting rights both nationwide, and at the state level. They have repeatedly pushed for immigration reform, but have been blocked from doing so by the opposition.

Another party demonizes people of color as "moochers" hey and "welfare queens" through racist dog whistles, claiming they don't deserve any help from a social safety net. It opposes hate crime legislation and anti-lynching bills because of supposed "smaller government principles", and seeks to strip them of their voting rights. This party also has only one person of color in all of Congress, and down ballot in state legislatures, it gets much, much worse. It also is anti-science and anti-common sense, having just had one of their most well known former presidential candidates go anti-mask and died of Covid-19. Its president, who hosted the rally that man died at, has, per many sources, openly used racial slurs frequently, and told four women of color in the opposing party's caucus to "go back to where they came from" a little over a year ago. Then the rest of their own caucus voted against a resolution to criticize him for that open bigoted hostility. They have dug in to defend white police officers who murder African Americans in the streets without cause, and demonize African Americans who have the nerve to use their 1st Amendment right to protest that fact. They lock undocumented immigrant children in cages, who are molested in the hundreds... but they only lock up the immigrants of color while welcoming the white ones. They have one African American member of Congress as of 2021.

So I can't figure out why recent history even favors the former party doing better with minorities, y'know?

[Username taken]

When you have to go back 40 to 50 years to find things the democrats have done for minorities you basically make my point. What happened 50 years ago isn't relevant to current politics today anymore than the stupid republican talking point about the democrats being the founders of the KKK is relevant. Things change over the decades and directions of parties change.

Lets consider the crime bills of the 90's pushed by Joe Biden and signed by Bill Clinton who are wait for it . . . . democrats. Those are blamed for the mass incarceration of blacks that continues today. Biden was taken to task during the primaries as was Hilary Clinton in 2016. Then when they got the nomination all the liberals were "oh wait, just kidding we like you again now."

Democrats are also indirectly causing the increasing murder and death of black people Democrats also push false narratives about police that the police are out to kill black people and are racist against them for disproportionately arresting them and then show out of context stats to prove this by saying that X% of blacks are in the prison system despite only being 13% of the population. What they don't say and scream racism at anyone who does is that the prison population is both a result of their own policies (the crime bill of the democrats in the 90's) and the disproportionate amount of crime committed by black males in this country. Black males make up 6.5% of the population yet year after year commit between 50 and 60% of the murders and robberies. So of course they are going to prison at a higher rate because they are committing the offenses most likely to land you in prison at a much higher rate. Here are the 2018 crime states by the FBI. Well over 90% of murders are by males so I'm using males here by default. Black males committed 53% of the murders and 54% of the robberies. They also committed disproportionately higher rates of other major crimes as well. "Oh but thats only because the police are racist and only arrest black people" is a common refute. Except that its statistically proven year after year year most crimes and especially murder are done within the same race, blacks kill blacks and whites kill whites etc. The race % of victims of murders closely matches the % of race of the murderers themselves and you can't fake the race of the victims. What this has caused is all the blowback we are seeing this year over police incidents which has the effect of causing police to back off and then you see skyrocketing murder rates in the black communities. Shootings and murders of black people by other black people have as much as doubled in places like Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore, New York, etc since George Floyd and the protests began. And this is 100% IMO caused by the false narrative that democrats push that the police are out there murdering black men every day just because they are black. Here is the FBI crime chart for 2018 since many refuse to believe stats on race and crime unless they see it: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-43

Democrats have also enabled a culture of poverty which permeates the black community. This has led to the hopelessness and generational poverty that continues with no hopes of getting out. Which in turn is what drives some black male teens into gangs which is where most of the black on black crime comes from. Do republicans have great solutions? No not really. But its sure as hell obvious that the democrats are making it worse.

This post just justifies the "defund the police" argument.

Black communities have been deliberately kept poor largely due to racist policies and the continuous economic redlining to the extent that even under-counting African-Americans during the census to reduce possible benefits has become a thing. Crime rates are simply higher among poorer people everywhere in the world, it's not an unusual situation at all particularly in a country that has done everything humanly possible to keep a group of people poor.

Trump right now is literally talking about enforcing redlining which doesn't in anyway shape or form help this situation. In fact, it's **** like this that's making minorities continuously vote Democrat. Ultimately, instead of training and using the Police like attack dogs, more money should taken from the Police and diverted to improve education and other facilities in less privileged communities. The way to handle crime is to address the underlying cause and not reinforce it which is what has happened in the US for far too long.

Republicans have done everything humanly possible to maintain old structures that hamper African-American progress to the extent that they are working to prevent them from voting. I mean, Colin Kapernick was demonized by the right for carrying out a peaceful, respectful protest at the advice of an ex-Navy SEAL, they are trying to cancel Cardi B (LOLOL) and are bringing QAnon and open bigots into their fold. So no, the Democracts aren't making anything worse, the GOP is deliberately targeting white voters at the expense of other races and everyone can see this.

[PaulBullion]

So, how about that Beverly Guilfiore?

[The Cool Thatguy]

40 years?

Do you even know what ACA stands for, and how recently it was passed?

I do, and it actually affects me more than most, even though I'm white

I was referring to his post though, where he acted as though the voting act et all was all the democrats had

[PaulBullion]

I do, and it actually affects me more than most, even though I'm white

I was referring to his post though, where he acted as though the voting act et all was all the democrats had

Sorry, I quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote the one you quoted. Hold on, I will try to fix that.