All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[A Small Talent For War]

Every Confederate state except for South Carolina had enough men join Union ranks to form a regiment named after it.

I will say that you aren't quite correct in your post Civil War assessments - Black Americans were holding political office, holding management level positions in an integrated federal government, and had a burgeoning middle class for a while. Then Reconstruction ended, and some time after that Woodrow Wilson became president and all that was taken away.

True, but I think it probably happened much faster and before Wilson - who may be the worst president of the 20th century. The Black Codes were enacted right after the war and the 14th Amendment did little in many states to prevent the submission of freed slaves (and as a result poor whites) to the same class of wealthy planters who ruled before the war. Jim Crow south was strongly in place soon after the war in the 1870's long before Wilson took office - even though as a historian he was busily rewriting history and crucial to forming the myth of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy.

The north certainly tried to prevent the South from infringing African American freedom, but it is clear that the norther economy had its own interests supporting wealthy Southerners. Obviously, the laws that the South would put into place to control their recently freed blacks were modeled on the laws that the Northern states had in place before the civil war to segregate their own free black populations and prevent them from voting.

In the end, freed blacks really did not have a chance to prosper in the South primarily because their only allies against the political will of White Supremacist Southerners were White Supremacist Northerners.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Are you aware that a lot of black people are starting to questioning if that realignment never happened and they are leaving the Democratic Party using the term "leave the plantation"?

Please define “a lot”. Do you have stats to support your statement?

[KOSLOX]

Please define “a lot”. Do you have stats to support your statement?

Lol. You already know.

[Tendrin]

Please define “a lot”. Do you have stats to support your statement?

They saw walk-away trend on twitter so it MUST be actually true.

(it's not.) They just want to pretend 'didn't vote for Hillary because their votes were suppressed is an endorsement of Trump, just like he recently did.

[Kirby101]

Are you aware that a lot of black people are starting to questioning if that realignment never happened and they are leaving the Democratic Party using the term "leave the plantation"?

Yeah, that really isn't happening.

[4saken1]

No, we aren't.

It's the same 8-10% that have always identified as conservative.

I find it alarming that Trump's approval rating has actually risen to 24% among black voters. Some of this is due to the post convention bump, but even before that it was sitting around 15%, 50+% more than the typical Republican candidate.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Lol. You already know.

Yeah, I do. But I was curious as to what sort of numbers he’d cook up.

[Gray Lensman]

I find it alarming that Trump's approval rating has actually risen to 24% among black voters. Some of this is due to the post convention bump, but even before that it was sitting around 15%, 50+% more than the typical Republican candidate.

Harris polling isn't very accurate to begin with, and has a Republican lean of about a percent and a half on top of it.

[Tendrin]

There is no way Trump scores double digit black support. It's just not going to happen. He had 8% in 2016. He has not improved it.

[The Cool Thatguy]

There is no way Trump scores double digit black support. It's just not going to happen. He had 8% in 2016. He has not improved it.

Only thing he's ever improved was his racism

[Kirby101]

What bump?

[Kirby101]

Looks like Laura Ingraham may have let it slip that trump's brother died from Covid.

https://twitter.com/jessssko/status/1299585846513987587

[shooshoomanjoe]

Looks like Laura Ingraham may have let it slip that trump's brother died from Covid.

https://twitter.com/jessssko/status/1299585846513987587

What does she say? "He lost his brother, host friend from COVID"?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Looks like Laura Ingraham may have let it slip that trump's brother died from Covid.

https://twitter.com/jessssko/status/1299585846513987587

Well now, that’s curious.

[Kirby101]

What does she say? "He lost his brother, host friend from COVID"?

Trump had said how his brother was his best friend. Ingraham said "He lost his brother, his best friend, to COVID."