All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[The no face guy]

Recently, on FB, encountered the idea that there's a significant difference between a Liberal and a Leftist. Unfortunately, some things I thought would be Liberal (like Trans rights) seem to be embraced by Leftists. Disliking solving things through government seems to be Leftist. Anybody got thoughts on significant differences?

Historically there has been,

Classical Liberalism - (Today it is merged with Conservativism, and represents the Barry Goldwater/Ronald Regan wing of the Republican Party but more purely Gary Johnson and Ron Paul)

Reformist Liberalism - (Started in the UK with John Stuart Mill, and would become more progressive throughout the 20th century incorporating the ideas of John Rawls & John Maynard Keynes and the New Deal)
(In the U.S. this could range anywhere from FDR to Bill Clinton, but it's applied more to blue dog democrats & third way Democrats like the Clintons & Tony Blair)

Social Democracy - (Started in the UK with the Fabian society, initially inspired by Marxism, they split with revolutionary Marxists, by advocating to bring socialism through reform and democratic means as opposed to revolution)
(In the United States this would have been the active trade union wing of the Democratic Party, heavy on State intervention. Think FDR, and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society)

Marxist Communism - (Started with Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto, basically those who think that socialism has to be achieved through revolution and dictatorship of the proletariat, ie the Soviet Union)
(In the United States there are not too many traditional communists, but there are hardcore Marxists that advocate for socialism and are sympathetic to China, Cuba, & Venezuela this can range from anyone
from Richard Wolf to the more radical wing of the democratic Party,...I'll avoid names so I don't start a 1 hour $%$# show debate)

Cultural Marxism/Post Modernism - (This is a term used to describe the Western Marxist thinkers who applied sociology and psychology to Marxist theory in order to figure out why the workers revolution failed. It would eventually merge with the civil rights movement of the 60's, Radical Feminism, Black Panther Party, Chicano movement, LBGTQ movements. Think Herbert Marcuse, Derrick Bell ect) In truth there is just as much post modernism in here than Marxism.

(In the United States, much of this ideology has gone mainstream, and has resulted in advancements for marginal groups (Gay Marriage) but the more radical components, Whiteness theory or aspects of queer theory that deny
biological gender is associated with the Social Justice Warrior movement. Tearing down statues and such)

Anarchism - Modern anarchism dates back to Michael Bakunin and his feud with Karl Marx. Bakunin believed state control would just bring about oppression & unlike Marx who saw marginal groups lumpenproletariats, the homeless, as not useful to the revolution, Bakunin believed they were essential because they were the most dispossessed and therefore easiest to mobolize. This would explain modern American anarchism's affiliation to the social justice warrior movement, of course represented by ANTIFA

Environmentalism - The modern environmental movement started in the late 70's. Although there is such a thing as conservative environmentalism (Think Roger Scruton) it is primarily a progressive ideology, think Green Peace.

In reality, most people will have ideas that take a little from each, for instance I'm an Anarchist in that I think local community initiatives & leadership are often better than the heavy hand of the federal government in improving communities.

Consider this your left wing history lesson, I could do a right wing one to

[WestPhillyPunisher]

I assume this to mean that you're fine with your representatives going back on their statements from 2016.

Clearly those representatives have zero problem with their hypocrisy. Hell, if a reporter were to mention those very same statements to said representatives, chances are they'll either deny having made them, or say things changed with Republicans controlling the Senate.

[JackDaw]

Clearly those representatives have zero problem with their hypocrisy. Hell, if a reporter were to mention those very same statements to said representatives, chances are they'll either deny having made them, or say things changed with Republicans controlling the Senate.

You’d think they would be mildly embarrassed by their hypocrisy...though to be fair I suppose it’s practically essential in politics to have a thick skin.

Is there a case for a rule change: to make it essential to have a two thirds majority at the confirmation hearing to join the Supreme Court?

That way successful candidates would have to be people who command respect from both main parties...which surely ought to be a minimum requirement in a Supreme Court judge.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

You’d think they would be mildly embarrassed by their hypocrisy...though to be fair I suppose it’s practically essential in politics to have a thick skin.

Or a complete lack of anything even remotely resembling a conscience.

Is there a case for a rule change: to make it essential to have a two thirds majority at the confirmation hearing to join the Supreme Court?

That way successful candidates would have to be people who command respect from both main parties...which surely ought to be a minimum requirement in a Supreme Court judge.

That, I'm not sure about. What I know about the law wouldn't fill a thimble, but I think that would require a constitutional amendment, in any event, chances are just about excellent Republicans wouldn't go for that.

(Aside: About your avatar, I liked Hitman. Tommy Monaghan was one THE coolest characters to come out of the 90's at DC)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

"Snopes isn't legit. I had to deep dive to find real truth..."

Discussing wild conspiracy from FB meme...lol

[Gray Lensman]

You’d think they would be mildly embarrassed by their hypocrisy...though to be fair I suppose it’s practically essential in politics to have a thick skin.

Is there a case for a rule change: to make it essential to have a two thirds majority at the confirmation hearing to join the Supreme Court?

That way successful candidates would have to be people who command respect from both main parties...which surely ought to be a minimum requirement in a Supreme Court judge.

Moscow Mitch isn't embarrassed over his hypocrisy, he's PROUD of it.

[babyblob]

Clearly those representatives have zero problem with their hypocrisy. Hell, if a reporter were to mention those very same statements to said representatives, chances are they'll either deny having made them, or say things changed with Republicans controlling the Senate.

Chuck Todd called out Babarsso Like I brought up in an earlier post. Then the Sen started talking about that BS Biden Rule In fact a lot of Republicans are doing that and I am kind of shocked Biden has not really said more about this since they afe using his name to justify there bullshit. Mitch said this is not the same as 201 because the same party controls the Senate and White House. Others say that they have to have a full court before the election and they would of course be saying the same if a Dem was president.

Fox News is using fear tactics like giving a bs list of Biden's so called top picks for the Justice. Or going on about how Biden will do a far left justice.

Other Republicans my my Aunt and her group know they are going back on there word but dont care because too much is at stake and this is the only way to keep Biden from stealing the election.

[Tami]

How Deutsche Bank Let Dirty Clients Run Rampart

When Robert Meltzer, who runs gyms for children in Los Angeles, found that more than $60,000 in payroll taxes — half a year’s worth — had gone missing in 2013, it was too late.

When something similar happened to Stanford Media Group, a company that sold CDs and DVDs online, Mark Gilula said he was forced to lay off employees. He said the stress contributed to his heart attack.

And when Maureen Sullivan, an architect, went looking for answers about the $111,000 that evaporated from her accounts, she said her inquiries with the police “basically went into a black hole.”

What none of these small business owners could have known was that their losses were linked to one of the most infamous international banking scandals on record.

The bookkeeper who handled their payroll allegedly embezzled their money and injected it into a notorious scheme used by crime bosses, terrorist financiers, and drug cartels. The participants laundered $10 billion of illicit money into nice clean cash.

It all happened with the help of Deutsche Bank, Germany’s biggest financial institution and one of the biggest lenders to Donald Trump. But when the enormous scandal broke, Deutsche blamed it on a few middle-level staffers in its Moscow office, paid a fine, and got back to business.

[Tami]

FinCEN Files: Tory donor Lubov Chernukhin linked to $8m Putin ally funding

The husband of one of the Conservative Party's biggest donors was secretly funded by a Russian oligarch with close ties to President Putin.

Lubov Chernukhin has given £1.7m to the Tories, including paying to spend time with the last three prime ministers.

Leaked files show her husband received $8m (£6.1m). The money initially came from a politician facing US sanctions due to his closeness to the Kremlin.

Her lawyers say the donations are not tainted by Kremlin influence.

A leak of banks' "suspicious activity reports" - called the FinCEN Files and seen by BBC Panorama - shows Vladimir Chernukhin was sent the money in 2016 from a British Virgin Islands company linked to Suleyman Kerimov.

Officials at Deutsche Bank in New York reported it as being among $278.5m of transactions involving the offshore company.

There has been an increasing focus on donations to political parties from wealthy UK-based Russians in recent years, with July's parliamentary report by the Intelligence and Security Committee referring to the possibility they could allow people to "assist Russian influence operations".

[JackDaw]

(Aside: About your avatar, I liked Hitman. Tommy Monaghan was one THE coolest characters to come out of the 90's at DC)

I like a lot of Garth Ennis’s long runs...Preacher, Punisher, Fury, War Stories, etc..must be a close call between him and John Ostrander for comics I’ve enjoyed the most.

[Tami]

Deutsche Bank, JPMorgan lead drop in financial shares amid report the banks moved suspicious funds

Deutsche Bank Leaders Were Warned of Compliance Lapses: Report

Global banks defy U.S. crackdowns by serving oligarchs, criminals and terrorists

Deutsche Bank: Suspected of facilitating funds to Daesh in Iraq

(Reuters) - HSBC’s shares fell on Monday to their lowest since at least 1998 after media reports that they and other banks, including Barclays and Deutsche Bank, moved large sums of allegedly illicit funds over nearly two decades despite red flags about the origins of the money.

FinCEN Intelligence Assesment

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Chuck Todd called out Babarsso Like I brought up in an earlier post. Then the Sen started talking about that BS Biden Rule In fact a lot of Republicans are doing that and I am kind of shocked Biden has not really said more about this since they afe using his name to justify there bullshit. Mitch said this is not the same as 201 because the same party controls the Senate and White House. Others say that they have to have a full court before the election and they would of course be saying the same if a Dem was president.

That's a baldfaced freaking lie right there. SCOTUS went with eight justices throughout 2016 after Antonin Scalia died in February, and Moscow Mitch torpedoed Obama's selection of Merrick Garland to the bench, leaving the high court to twist in the wind until after Trump won and he picked Kegger Kavanaugh.

[Tami]

That's a baldfaced freaking lie right there. SCOTUS went with eight justices throughout 2016 after Antonin Scalia died in February, and Moscow Mitch torpedoed Obama's selection of Merrick Garland to the bench, leaving the high court to twist in the wind until after Trump won and he picked Kegger Kavanaugh.

Correction, Neil M. Gorsuch was the first one. Kavanaugh was the second.

[worstblogever]

Chuck Todd called out Babarsso Like I brought up in an earlier post. Then the Sen started talking about that BS Biden Rule In fact a lot of Republicans are doing that and I am kind of shocked Biden has not really said more about this since they afe using his name to justify there bullshit. Mitch said this is not the same as 201 because the same party controls the Senate and White House. Others say that they have to have a full court before the election and they would of course be saying the same if a Dem was president.

Fox News is using fear tactics like giving a bs list of Biden's so called top picks for the Justice. Or going on about how Biden will do a far left justice.

When the most likely scenario is that Biden just picks Merrick Garland.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Correction, Neil M. Gorsuch was the first one. Kavanaugh was the second.

Yeah, you're right, forgot about Gorsuch. My bad.