All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[kidfresh512]

The answer is the GOP. More time voting means longer lines and less people voting. Anything stop people is good with them.

https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits...ember-election

Exactly this. Texas GOP got rid of it. We washed out so many old GOP in midterms with the Beto bump and straight ticket. They want to make you one by one choose and hope people will at least choose some GOP, or get confused, or anything that gives them a chance

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Isn’t really. Lengths taken to keep the president alive will outstrip every other American.

The drama for me was if some way Trump's body was so far gone that he wouldn't respond to treatment. It was never about the US doctors at Walter Reed not doing their best.

None of them wants a Potus corpse on their watch, nobody wants their institution to become the next Parkland, and plagued in conspiracy mythology forevermore.

[Joker]

I’m not saying it couldn’t, and possibly still won’t kill him. I’m just saying great lengths taken improve the odds.

[GindyPosts]

Yesterday, this is what it looked like in Indianapolis:

https://twitter.com/KaylaReporting/s...563373058?s=20

Says two things.

1. People appear to be more determined to vote than ever than they were in 2016 (or 2018).
2. Governor Holcomb should have allowed for more options to vote, like more places (the City-County Building is the only place you can vote early until October 24th), or through mail-in. It's not he's at risk of losing; the Indianapolis Star ran an article a few days ago pointing out most Hoosiers don't even know who his opponent is.

[PaulBullion]

Isn’t really. Lengths taken to keep the president alive will outstrip every other American.

Point if fact, the president was given drugs that are not available to a normal Covid patient.

Multimillionaires like Kenzo are still dying from the disease. Giving new and not sufficiently tested meds to a patient might as well backfire. What you're saying is just plainly untrue and uninformed.

[wjowski]

What are the chances that trump faked his COVID?

We would have been inundated with WH staff leaks about it if that was the case.

[Mister Mets]

That was bullshit the other day, and it is still bullshit today.

It's also dangerous disinformation about the virus.

You guys might be talking past one another, if his definition of "great odds to recover" uses 50-50 as the frame of reference and yours uses the common cold.

[Joker]

Multimillionaires like Kenzo are still dying from the disease. Giving new and not sufficiently tested meds to a patient might as well backfire. What you're saying is just plainly untrue and uninformed.

Saying greater lengths taken to keep a patient alive will improve their odds is not untrue or uninformed.

And yes, those drugs could backfire. The stress of the election coupled with covid could kill him. He could die. But he has a team of doctors who's only job is to keep him alive. Who else has that? Ten doctors ONLY responsible for keeping that person alive.

[thwhtGuardian]

Multimillionaires like Kenzo are still dying from the disease. Giving new and not sufficiently tested meds to a patient might as well backfire. What you're saying is just plainly untrue and uninformed.

It really isn't untrue or uninformed at all. If you have millions of dollars and access to the best medical treatment the country has to offer you are far and beyond much more likely to survive Covid than someone who's only source of healthcare is walking into an underfunded city ER. That doesn't mean Covid isn't dangerous, and it doesn't mean wealth is a sure bet to recovery but it does mean your chances are better the richer you are. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

To reiterate what the above two are saying,

we need to give up hoping for a cosmic comeuppance on Trump. Ultimately rich dude elected to the highest office of the richest and most powerful country in the world survives a disease thanks to access to treatment that the common people don't have.

It's no mystery.

[Gray Lensman]

That was bullshit the other day, and it is still bullshit today.

It's also dangerous disinformation about the virus.

The overall death rate for COVID patients in the US seems to be just under 3% - Trump's chances to survive were always pretty high. While he is more at risk due to underlying conditions (age and obesity at the very least) he also had access to much better medical care than the average person as well.

The virus is disgustingly contagious, and the biggest danger was always overwhelming the medical system - the worst cases are certain death without a ventilator and there aren't enough if too many people need them at the same time. We could see the death rate more than double (and that's a conservative estimate) under such a situation. I live in a city of about 20k people, and I doubt we even have 20 ventilators in the local hospital. That's at best 0.1%, and it doesn't come close to what would be needed if things are allowed to get out of hand. And my city might have more than the average, as I live in what is essentially a giant retirement community and our hospital effectively specializes in care for the elderly as a result.

Basically, there is a difference between risk to an individual, and risk to the population as a whole.

[Gray Lensman]

It really isn't untrue or uninformed at all. If you have millions of dollars and access to the best medical treatment the country has to offer you are far and beyond much more likely to survive Covid than someone who's only source of healthcare is walking into an underfunded city ER. That doesn't mean Covid isn't dangerous, and it doesn't mean wealth is a sure bet to recovery but it does mean your chances are better the richer you are. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say.

Even reducing your chances of the worst outcome by 90% still leaves that 10% of it happening.

[shooshoomanjoe]

Just saw trump's tweets saying Biden, Obama and Clinton need to be arrested for the alleged coup against him. Someone needs to tell him America doesn't arrest political opponents.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Just saw trump's tweets saying Biden, Obama and Clinton need to be arrested for the alleged coup against him. Someone needs to tell him America doesn't arrest political opponents.

America doesn’t arrest anyone, not anyone poor, without due process and explicit charges. And Trump doesn’t have the right to arrest anyone. It’s up to DOJ, FBI to lead an investigation and push charges.

[worstblogever]

I think Trump has finally gone to pieces. He was already under strain from sinking in the polls, knowing what’s waiting for him back home in New York if he loses next month. Coming down with COVID was the final straw and that’s unhinged him, his behavior over the last several days has been stunning, even by his already ludicrous standards. If there was a time to invoke the 25th amendment and remove Trump, it’s right freaking now, problem is, Moscow Mitch and the GOP doesn’t give a fuck, all they care about is getting the shotgun marriage of Amy Coney Barrett and SCOTUS underway, if anything, with Trump unraveling, McConnell figures to really speed up the hearings for ACB before Trump does something unexpected, like change his mind about her, or infect more Republicans before the vote. Things are really getting hairy now, kids.

Think about the people in Trump's orbit who were considered to be the people propping him up the past five years on campaign talking points. The proxies he was most likely to throw on cable news.

-Hope Hicks
-Kellyanne Conway
- Steven Miller
- Bill Stepien
- Rudy Giuliani

They're all sick right now. (Rudy looked like it yesterday, but hasn't announced a positive test.) Like, he's alone. He's bleating out in terror on Twitter while high on meds, because that's all he has left.

His Doctor lacks any credibility.

He misspelled Regeneron today, and than touted Trump testing positive for antibodies as proof he was better.

Trump was transfused with plasma with antibodies in it, the test is only detecting medication in his system. The statement is a red herring that makes it sound like Trump's producing his own antibody response.

What are the chances that trump faked his COVID?

None.

He’s not smart enough to pull off such a deception.

Also, they would have had to fake the diagnosis of all the people in his orbit he's likely gotten sick.

Conley apparently had legit credentials once but after contact with Trump, he's been compromised. He's now Nick Riviera.

He's more of a Dr. Leo Spaceman.

Just saw trump's tweets saying Biden, Obama and Clinton need to be arrested for the alleged coup against him. Someone needs to tell him America doesn't arrest political opponents.

"Maybe if I start screaming 'LOCK THEM UP' into the void I can come from behind? Yeah, that'll work..."