All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Mister Mets]

I was noticing something odd about Pence's eyes.

A lot on twitter say he has pinkeye or conjunctivitis which is a potential COVID symptom.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...ring-vp-debate

We'll likely learn about this specific question within a week.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

The thing that stands out to me.

Harris said she would be a partner for Biden. While Pence said he would be a loyal soldier. So one who will speak her mind and help direct policy vs a lackey who will roll over and do what ever he is told.

But lets be honest thats all Trump wanted in a VP. Someone who will never come close to outshine him or stand up to him in any way.

True, but there's not much room for a VP to defy his boss in any case. There's not much instance of that happening, not since Jefferson tried to shanghai Burr in any case.

[ed2962]

I was noticing something odd about Pence's eyes.

A lot on twitter say he has pinkeye or conjunctivitis which is a potential COVID symptom.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...ring-vp-debate

Yeah, they said something similar on the George Stephanopoulos panel. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Pence has virus.

[Mister Mets]

True, but there's not much room for a VP to defy his boss in any case. There's not much instance of that happening, not since Jefferson tried to shanghai Burr in any case.

I don't see this happening with Biden because he's loyal.

In comparison, Trump is not. He cares about his own interests a lot more than he does about the American people, or the Republican party.

I think both candidates did okay, but Harris won the debate. She had less to lose, and she didn't screw up. Should Trump pull off a win, she'll be the favorite for the Democratic nominate in 2024. And if Biden wins, which remains quote likely, she'll be a running mate who is simultaneously groundbreaking but bland enough to avoid serious opposition. She'll have the establishment along with progressive activists who think a woman of color should be President.

Pence might be the frontrunner for 2024, but that's because name recognition gives him a better chance than all of the potential opponents (He has a better shot than Rubio, but not a better shot than Rubio, Haley, Cotton and Hawley combined.) Harris has a much better than even chance of being the nominee in the next cycle.

* Edit- There is a nontrivial possibility that Harris didn't go after Pence harder because she thinks he'll be easier to beat next time around than Rubio or Hogan.

[Tami]

Who Do You Think Won the Debate: Harris or Pence?

[Gray Lensman]

Who Do You Think Won the Debate: Harris or Pence?

The only person Pence outperformed was the moderator, and I'm including the fly in that assessment.

[Mister Mets]

I'll be honest. I was doing other stuff while listening to the debate, so I wasn't familiar with anything to do with the fly that landed on Pence for two minutes.

[zinderel]

Pence's contempt for women was on full display tonight.

And again, the debate rules need to include a clause that at the end of each candidates two minutes, their mic cuts off. Period. Whether they're done talking or not.

[Gray Lensman]

I'll be honest. I was doing other stuff while listening to the debate, so I wasn't familiar with anything to do with the fly that landed on Pence for two minutes.

The internet is already referring to that fly as Pence's only black friend...

[Tami]

Anderson Cooper: Harris "had a smile on her face and he had a bloody eye and a fly on his head."

Total time a fly sat on Mike Pence's head: two minutes

[Revolutionary_Jack]

The Fly was jamming to this for sure.



"It's no secret that the stars are falling from the sky
The universe exploded 'cause of one man's lie"

[numberthirty]

I was thinking...

[JCAll]

Right out of the end of Psycho.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Right out of the end of Psycho.

What with his obsession with mother.

Bates would totally vote Trump-Pence.

[Powerboy]

I don't see this happening with Biden because he's loyal.

In comparison, Trump is not. He cares about his own interests a lot more than he does about the American people, or the Republican party.

I think both candidates did okay, but Harris won the debate. She had less to lose, and she didn't screw up. Should Trump pull off a win, she'll be the favorite for the Democratic nominate in 2024. And if Biden wins, which remains quote likely, she'll be a running mate who is simultaneously groundbreaking but bland enough to avoid serious opposition. She'll have the establishment along with progressive activists who think a woman of color should be President.

Pence might be the frontrunner for 2024, but that's because name recognition gives him a better chance than all of the potential opponents (He has a better shot than Rubio, but not a better shot than Rubio, Haley, Cotton and Hawley combined.) Harris has a much better than even chance of being the nominee in the next cycle.

* Edit- There is a nontrivial possibility that Harris didn't go after Pence harder because she thinks he'll be easier to beat next time around than Rubio or Hogan.

Harris definitely won. Pence did a good job but he was hamstrung from the start. He had the job of claiming a president who said it was all a hoax actually informed the people in a timely manner and hasn't lied when his lies are recorded constantly. He had to constantly spout misinformation and lies himself.

I just hope it affects the swing voters because nothing is going to change the "minds" of the Trump personality cult.