All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Kusanagi]

If it becomes obvious he has lost beyond any shadow of doubt (please, Thor...!), does anyone think he'll make a congratulatory call to Biden?

I 100% believe if Trump sees no options for victory, legitimate or otherwise, he is more likely to flee the country than congratulate Joe Biden. I'd almost put money on this.

[Tami]

I 100% believe if Trump sees no options for victory, legitimate or otherwise, he is more likely to flee the country than congratulate Joe Biden. I'd almost put money on this.

He'll do something, anything, but he's not going like a gentleman. He might even leave office early, turn it over to Pence, then hope for a Pardon. Assuming he fails at trying to Pardon himself.

[Tami]

Some people believe that they to are above the law, just like Trump and his family believe.

US election: Don Jr told Trump supporters to ‘have some fun’ before Biden vehicles ‘rammed by armed group’

A Biden campaign event was cancelled in Texas on Friday after reportedly coming under threat from armed Trump supporters, days after the president’s eldest son called on his father’s supporters to “get out there, have some fun”.

Don Jr posted a video earlier this week ahead of Democratic VP candidate, Kamala Harris, holding an event in Texas and urged his father’s supporters to show up.

He said: “It’d be great if you guys would all get together, head down to McAllen and give Kamala Harris a nice Trump Train welcome."

“Get out there, have some fun, enjoy it,” Mr Trump continued.

“Don’t forget to vote and bring all of your friends. Let’s show them how strong Texas still is as Trump country. Get out there, guys.”

While Senator Harris’s appearance went ahead as planned, local Texas Democrats said they were forced to pull the plug on a gathering scheduled to take place in Pflugerville, a small city about 17 miles north of Austin, due to "security reasons".

[JCAll]

He's more likely to spend 10 weeks on the phone doing three things, screaming at Bill Barr demanding Biden be arrested for made up crimes, whining to the media that it's not a legitimate outcome and that Biden needs to be locked up, and then pandering to domestic terrorists and asking them as legally vaguely as he can to execute his enemies for him. That last one, he'll become less subtle about as January 20th looms.

He may also do a fourth thing and still hold rallies even though election season is over to try and stir up dissent and/or inspire domestic terrorists through that 10 weeks.

This might seem like a bleak outlook, but it's honestly what I think he's gonna do. I don't think he's just gonna lose and go away. And if the Cabinet had any sense among them (they don't) they'd call the 25th Amendment out to make sure he didn't spitefully harm the country once he starts this behavior.

I expect at least 2 more years of trouble stirring Trump Rallies if he loses.

[Kirby101]

If Trump loses (fingers crossed) he will realize his fate lies in Biden's hands and like most bullies who are bested will become obsequious to try to save his own ass. He will also throw anyone under the bus if it helps him.

[ChangingStation]

Only one thing is certain with Trump. He's going to throw a tantrum.

[Spidey5640]

Trump's not going to lose.

[Tami]

The perfectly logical case for Donald Trump

Any bad things happening now were sent by Joe Biden, from the future. Do not be fooled by the fact that they are happening in the present, when Donald Trump is president. They are not happening now; they are a preview of what will happen when Joe Biden is president.

Joe Biden is 40 feet tall, made of wood, hollow and filled with socialists. Joe Biden is also a puppet whose strings are pulled by China, and he would be a pushover to them, unlike Donald Trump, whom John Bolton remembered telling Chinese President Xi Jinping to “go ahead” building concentration camps for Uighurs because it was “exactly the right thing to do.” Joe Biden wants to defund the police, which is why he is advocating not defunding the police.

[Kirby101]

Trump's not going to lose.

Do you think he is going to win the popular vote?

If not, which States do you think he will win to put him over the top in the EC?

[Tendrin]

Do you think he is going to win the popular vote?

If not, which States do you think he will win to put him over the top in the EC?

WE'rE a REpUBlic111111

[Mister Mets]

They are limited, they are not non existent.

And by focusing on people who are non threats but are still entitled to due process, he's clogged the courts and I have a hard time believing that it wasn't deliberate

People who are not threats are still not entitled to residence within the United States.

The policy is mainly about recent migrants, so if we don't focus on recent migrants at all, this becomes a loophole to immigration limits. It's also going to encourage more people to bring their children on a dangerous journey across the border, which represents a change in immigration patterns, as earlier undocumented immigrants were more likely to single men or at least men who didn't bring their families over.

The process should be relatively simple since the questions are largely binary.

Is someone an American citizen/ immigrant with documentation? Are they in front of an immigration court for violating a condition of residence (IE- getting a second DUI or a conviction for fraud)?

If someone has been caught entering the country, the main question is whether they're applying for asylum and whether they have a claim that meets the standards.

As best as I can figure, the Democratic plan is to let everyone in and then offer them amnesty as part of a grand immigration bargain at some point down the line.

My guess? They posted something stupid.

Probably.

[worstblogever]

I expect at least 2 more years of trouble stirring Trump Rallies if he loses.

This assumes he goes 2 years without getting a perp walk for tax fraud in NY.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Slightly unrelated. Vox did a video on the Electoral College. It's a basic 101 explainer thing, but one thing that struck me is that Vox mentioned that in 2016, 4 million people in California voted for Trump, more than any other US state. Nearly 9 million Californians voted for Hillary so it wasn't close but the number was shocking to me all the same, as is the fact that California in 2016 had more Trump voters than any other state and yet thanks to the EC, their votes weren't decisive in sending him to the WH.



Anyway, it's stuff like this you need to pitch to the Republicans to get on board with getting rid of the EC...and also to remind Dems that going to a full popular vote election is for all voters regardless of party.

[Jack Dracula]

And they got one of the most partisan GOP judges out there, so he just might do it.

Then Texans will know for certain that representative democracy is dead in their state.

[Tendrin]

Slightly unrelated. Vox did a video on the Electoral College. It's a basic 101 explainer thing, but one thing that struck me is that Vox mentioned that in 2016, 4 million people in California voted for Trump, more than any other US state. Nearly 9 million Californians voted for Hillary so it wasn't close but the number was shocking to me all the same, as is the fact that California in 2016 had more Trump voters than any other state and yet thanks to the EC, their votes weren't decisive in sending him to the WH.



Anyway, it's stuff like this you need to pitch to the Republicans to get on board with getting rid of the EC...and also to remind Dems that going to a full popular vote election is for all voters regardless of party.

They'll only start caring once they've been forced to by electoral circumstances.