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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorkrypton View Post
    I've always loved how Artemis looked in her WW outfit complete with the bow and arrow (yes even the star spangled thong). But as far her own outfits go, the Requiem one is pretty good but I also don't mind her new rebirth look, I wish she'd ditch the giant axe and get new bow and arrow back.
    Yeah, I could do without the axe or at least decrease its size. Make it look less like those over-sized anime swords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorkrypton View Post
    I've always loved how Artemis looked in her WW outfit complete with the bow and arrow (yes even the star spangled thong). But as far her own outfits go, the Requiem one is pretty good but I also don't mind her new rebirth look, I wish she'd ditch the giant axe and get new bow and arrow back.
    I think they ditched the bow and arrows (and wont allow her to regularly carry the Bow of Ra because it's supposedly soooo powerful) to avoid confusion between our Artemis and Artemis Crock.

    Personally I like her ax Mistress, it's powers and how it's so over the top.

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    Mistress has taken some getting use to for me. It nice that she has a unique signature weapon, but something about her having a giant axe just feels off. And I'd like for them to give her back bows and arrows again on the side at least. I'm not sure if reducing the Bow of Ra's power to make it more usable it might be a good idea or not.

    If confusion with YJ's version Artemis Crock was an issue, I'm not sure if it's going to be factor in the future. Stargirl is going to be using a more traditional villainous Tigress version of the character as part of their Injustice society. And the Young Justice comic has instead brought back Arrowette (who cartoon's Artemis was kinda sorta a composite character with).

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    Artemis has never looked better than when Dexter Spy drew her, costume and all. She absolutely looks like someone who could take on Diana and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemisfanboy View Post
    Mistress has taken some getting use to for me. It nice that she has a unique signature weapon, but something about her having a giant axe just feels off. And I'd like for them to give her back bows and arrows again on the side at least. I'm not sure if reducing the Bow of Ra's power to make it more usable it might be a good idea or not.

    If confusion with YJ's version Artemis Crock was an issue, I'm not sure if it's going to be factor in the future. Stargirl is going to be using a more traditional villainous Tigress version of the character as part of their Injustice society. And the Young Justice comic has instead brought back Arrowette (who cartoon's Artemis was kinda sorta a composite character with).
    The Tigress that appears in Stargirl isn't Artmeis Crock, it's her mother Paula.

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    I prefer her current costume. Her WW costume and the first green-white one for example have not aged well and looked ridiculous. The only good one during that time was the second green one under Jiminenz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    The Tigress that appears in Stargirl isn't Artmeis Crock, it's her mother Paula.
    Thought it was Artemis because her costume matched the one Artemis wore in the comics. Still, I'm not sure YJ cartoon influenced Artemis Crock is going to continue to be a thing. She was barely used in Lobdell's titans and hasn't been since, and it doesn't seem very likely with Arrowette back. And frankly, if that's actually a reason for keeping Artemis of Bana-mighdall from using bows and arrows, it's not a very good one. I'd rather they bring Crock back as the modern Injustice Society's Tigress, which also probably be her better chance of getting used at all at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Artemis has never looked better than when Dexter Spy drew her, costume and all. She absolutely looks like someone who could take on Diana and the like.
    Quote Originally Posted by lowfyr View Post
    I prefer her current costume. Her WW costume and the first green-white one for example have not aged well and looked ridiculous. The only good one during that time was the second green one under Jiminenz.
    I personally prefer the green white one and HATE the actual look..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemisfanboy View Post
    Thought it was Artemis because her costume matched the one Artemis wore in the comics. Still, I'm not sure YJ cartoon influenced Artemis Crock is going to continue to be a thing. She was barely used in Lobdell's titans and hasn't been since, and it doesn't seem very likely with Arrowette back. And frankly, if that's actually a reason for keeping Artemis of Bana-mighdall from using bows and arrows, it's not a very good one. I'd rather they bring Crock back as the modern Injustice Society's Tigress, which also probably be her better chance of getting used at all at this point.
    Artemis has the Bow of Ra last I checked so she still uses bows even if not as often.

    Personally, I don't see why Arrowette would stop Artemis Crock from being used as her YJ version as that is the most exposure she's ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterff View Post
    I personally prefer the green white one and HATE the actual look..
    Quote Originally Posted by lowfyr View Post
    I prefer her current costume. Her WW costume and the first green-white one for example have not aged well and looked ridiculous. The only good one during that time was the second green one under Jiminenz.
    There was a, I going to say, more subdued version of her "Requiem" outfit during Simone's and Scott's run. While the circumstances she first appeared wearing are questionable(having been captured by slavers) she still wore it well after she had escaped. I've tried to rationalize it in my headcanon she adopted it before being captured and got captured in the progress of trying to rescue the other amazons from them. Other than general artistic style(Deodato vs Nicola Scott), the main difference is Nicola Scott's redesign is it removes the skull motifs and most of the spikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemisfanboy View Post
    There was a, I going to say, more subdued version of her "Requiem" outfit during Simone's and Scott's run. While the circumstances she first appeared wearing are questionable(having been captured by slavers) she still wore it well after she had escaped. I've tried to rationalize it in my headcanon she adopted it before being captured and got captured in the progress of trying to rescue the other amazons from them. Other than general artistic style(Deodato vs Nicola Scott), the main difference is Nicola Scott's redesign is it removes the skull motifs and most of the spikes.

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    I only know the Deodato one I think, but I like it....
    I also liked her as Wonder Woman...Maybe even better than Diana...

    I liked the face, body-size, hair etc. MUCH more than the current Artemis...

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    Another look is one taken by Ame Comi and Flashpoint, is to give her a variant of Diana's armor/costume, in her own signature colors(Green, Black, Silver, White). On one hand while it can be seen as lazy, it could also make sense if Artemis and possibly the rest of the Bana were accepted and reintegrated into Themyscira, and Artemis was operating alongside Diana as an official representative of the Amazons. Sort of a uniform look thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Artemis has the Bow of Ra last I checked so she still uses bows even if not as often.

    Personally, I don't see why Arrowette would stop Artemis Crock from being used as her YJ version as that is the most exposure she's ever had.
    Well this getting a bit off topic as it's only tangentially related(depending on the theory of whether or not concerns about potential confusion between the two characters has affected Artemis's weapons of choice). First of all, Artemis Crock in the the cartoon was largely an original character not very reminiscent of Artemis Crock/Tigress in the comics. And there's the question of where you would use her. The New 52 version of the Teen Titans team is being scrubbed for continuity by the current YJ comic, both withe New 52 versions of Kon and Bart being disavowed, Cassie's powers coming from being Zeus's grand daughter instead of the Silent Armor, which is gone, and her place in the team as an archer is being filled by Arrowette.

    While in the cartoon had her teammates and contemporaries with Dick, Wally, and Roy (and M'gann, who joined their Rebirth Titans team), she's never been associated with that team of Titans or the characters in the comics. Wally has Linda, so there's no room for a romantic relationship there. And if Roy was brought back to life(which a lot of people want, along with him getting Lian back) she'd be competing for the archer role.

    You could also incorporate elements of the YJ character back to the traditional Injustice Society Tigress version of the character. You could have her be morally conflicted and end up defecting to the modern JSA. You can also keep her Tigress identity and crossbow usage while doing so.

    I'm just against limiting Artemis's weapon usage over a character that isn't actually being used and may not even exist in the current continuity given how YJ has been ignoring the New 52 team, especially when there's other ways to differentiate the two characters(Crock's tigress identity and crossbow usage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemisfanboy View Post
    Another look is one taken by Ame Comi and Flashpoint, is to give her a variant of Diana's armor/costume, in her own signature colors(Green, Black, Silver, White). On one hand while it can be seen as lazy, it could also make sense if Artemis and possibly the rest of the Bana were accepted and reintegrated into Themyscira, and Artemis was operating alongside Diana as an official representative of the Amazons. Sort of a uniform look thing.

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    Well this getting a bit off topic as it's only tangentially related(depending on the theory of whether or not concerns about potential confusion between the two characters has affected Artemis's weapons of choice). First of all, Artemis Crock in the the cartoon was largely an original character not very reminiscent of Artemis Crock/Tigress in the comics. And there's the question of where you would use her. The New 52 version of the Teen Titans team is being scrubbed for continuity by the current YJ comic, both withe New 52 versions of Kon and Bart being disavowed, Cassie's powers coming from being Zeus's grand daughter instead of the Silent Armor, which is gone, and her place in the team as an archer is being filled by Arrowette.

    While in the cartoon had her teammates and contemporaries with Dick, Wally, and Roy (and M'gann, who joined their Rebirth Titans team), she's never been associated with that team of Titans or the characters in the comics. Wally has Linda, so there's no room for a romantic relationship there. And if Roy was brought back to life(which a lot of people want, along with him getting Lian back) she'd be competing for the archer role.

    You could also incorporate elements of the YJ character back to the traditional Injustice Society Tigress version of the character. You could have her be morally conflicted and end up defecting to the modern JSA. You can also keep her Tigress identity and crossbow usage while doing so.

    I'm just against limiting Artemis's weapon usage over a character that isn't actually being used and may not even exist in the current continuity given how YJ has been ignoring the New 52 team, especially when there's other ways to differentiate the two characters(Crock's tigress identity and crossbow usage).
    I'm against it too. Mind you, it could also be that writers just like Artemis using an axe more.

    The Titans have had two speedsters before so I don't think having two archers would be an issue.

    Anyway, I'm fine with Bana Artemis wearing the color green.

    Tbh, I still think naming her Artemis was a bad idea given their is already a Greek goddess in WW with that name and Bana Artemis is supposed to be part of a tribe who hated the Olmypians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemisfanboy View Post
    Other than general artistic style(Deodato vs Nicola Scott), the main difference is Nicola Scott's redesign is it removes the skull motifs and most of the spikes.
    If I'm not mistaken I think it was Ed Benes who did her Requiem series and copied Deodato's style.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Tbh, I still think naming her Artemis was a bad idea given their is already a Greek goddess in WW with that name and Bana Artemis is supposed to be part of a tribe who hated the Olmypians.
    I think they should have just made her the post crisis Orana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterff View Post
    I personally prefer the green white one and HATE the actual look..
    Well, there's no accounting for taste.

    To each their own. I always thought classic Artemis looked like she was lacking something in design, but the current model (at least when Soy drew her) absolutely looked like someone who was Diana's equal. She had a definite presence to her.

    That may just had been Dexter Soy, however.

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