Robert P not working out during Quarantine according to Insider.com

[Kieran_Frost]

Yes. That's exactly why this whole thing is coming off so ridiculous: because Pattinson joking about being lazy during quarantine isn't about any kind of privilege at all. Do you think there aren't plenty of people who fall outside the categories you named who aren't also making the same kinds of jokes? Twitter is full of them, and that's been a fairly widespread reaction from what I've seen. So it's confusing to me why this is being treated as any kind of deal at all if the fact of his joking is known.

Okay, thank-you for clearing that up. The reason it's privilege is rooted in several things:
a) the fact he gets to treat interviews as a joke to give irreverent answers to shows his privilege... over many actresses, over non-Caucasian actors, over LGBT+ actors, who don't have such opportunity. Partly because they are interviewed less, partly because they can't afford to p*ss off anyone, on any level, with offensive attitudes (even if it wasn't intended as offensive, you'd be amazed how many people get upset about X, Y or Z). Now while these are sweeping statements, they are nonetheless grounded in reality. If he was a black actress, I guarantee he wouldn't have such a cavalier attitude to interviews he's PAID to do.
b) the fact he acknowledges Zoë Kravitz is working out so much more is a very privileged ignorance. She has to; she's an actress, she has to. And his throw-away comments about it, while innocent, is still ignorance. Is still privileged, because as a man he has his body matter so much less than a woman's.

Does this mean he's evil? NO! God no. Does it mean he's a jerk? Probably not. Does it make him likeable? No, why would it? At best it's a badly done joke, from a "frat boy-esq mind", who thinks the fact he gets to be so casual about his fame and work isn't rooted in protection due to his three fold privilege. At worst, he's telling the truth, and... ugh... that is unlikeable (and unprofessional). I'm not in the cancel culture, and truthfully I have no horse in this race (I wasn't intending to watch the film anyway). But I don't think it should be swept under the rug.

Also... we're in isolation, we have nothing but time to debate such nonsense

[Wildling]

Or do people hate (and I do mean hate in that they need to scream into the Internet void) Robert Pattinson that much?

If Mr. Twilight is about to take on one of the biggest superhero roles and he doesn't behave with Zen-like professionalism or like he's found a new calling in life, but instead has fun about it, I can imagine people not familiar with him reacting a bunch of ways, from surprise to taking it personal.

I guess that figures into why he does it. The final product will tell the only worthwhile story.

[Riv86672]

The people who want Batman to be some sort of outlandish Jim Lee bodybuilder are the same people who’d want all female superheroes to look like David Finch Pornstars.

I guess its easier to rebut arguments if you make the arguments up as you go?
Because no one's been asking for any of that.
PPL just think Pattinson should be in shape to play Batman, and gosh, golly by gum, dang it (pardon my French), thats not too much to expect.

[sammy_hansen]

Okay, thank-you for clearing that up. The reason it's privilege is rooted in several things:
a) the fact he gets to treat interviews as a joke to give irreverent answers to shows his privilege... over many actresses, over non-Caucasian actors, over LGBT+ actors, who don't have such opportunity. Partly because they are interviewed less, partly because they can't afford to p*ss off anyone, on any level, with offensive attitudes (even if it wasn't intended as offensive, you'd be amazed how many people get upset about X, Y or Z). Now while these are sweeping statements, they are nonetheless grounded in reality. If he was a black actress, I guarantee he wouldn't have such a cavalier attitude to interviews he's PAID to do.
b) the fact he acknowledges Zoë Kravitz is working out so much more is a very privileged ignorance. She has to; she's an actress, she has to. And his throw-away comments about it, while innocent, is still ignorance. Is still privileged, because as a man he has his body matter so much less than a woman's.

Does this mean he's evil? NO! God no. Does it mean he's a jerk? Probably not. Does it make him likeable? No, why would it? At best it's a badly done joke, from a "frat boy-esq mind", who thinks the fact he gets to be so casual about his fame and work isn't rooted in protection due to his three fold privilege. At worst, he's telling the truth, and... ugh... that is unlikeable (and unprofessional). I'm not in the cancel culture, and truthfully I have no horse in this race (I wasn't intending to watch the film anyway). But I don't think it should be swept under the rug.

Also... we're in isolation, we have nothing but time to debate such nonsense

That almost sounds like a joke... especially with the added emoji...


But, seriously, which one is it? Are we discussing nonsense, or disgusting displays of racism and sexism from a privileged white male actor?



There isn’t a teacup small enough for phoney storm.

[sammy_hansen]

I guess its easier to rebut arguments if you make the arguments up as you go?
Because no one's been asking for any of that.
PPL just think Pattinson should be in shape to play Batman, and gosh, golly by gum, dang it (pardon my French), thats not too much to expect.

And like I said before, do you know he is not in shape?


And and people have been referring to all sorts of Batmans in this thread, evaluating and comparing body types, from Keaton to Affleck. And people have been saying they don’t want Batman to be thin, which the opposite I guess is big, which is closer to Jim Lee style. Which is closer to comics, closer to David Finch. Let’s not forget the people who said Gal Gadot’s boobs weren’t big enough, or Brie Larson’s butt wasn’t round enough. Sure, they may not be here on this thread - and I never said they were, buddy - but those people would be miffed and peeved by not huge Pattinson.

[Kieran_Frost]

I guess its easier to rebut arguments if you make the arguments up as you go?
Because no one's been asking for any of that.

Ding ding ding ding!

PPL just think Pattinson should be in shape to play Batman, and gosh, golly by gum, dang it (pardon my French), thats not too much to expect.

It's not much to expect, agreed. It's also what the studio expects. No studio hires someone a personal trainer because they don't care about how the actor will look come filming. That's like a studio hiring a hair stylist for Yul Brynner... it does not compute.

[sammy_hansen]

Ding ding ding ding!


It's not much to expect, agreed. It's also what the studio expects. No studio hires someone a personal trainer because they don't care about how the actor will look come filming. That's like a studio hiring a hair stylist for Yul Brynner... it does not compute.

Do you actually know he is not in shape?

[Kieran_Frost]

Do you actually know he is not in shape?

No. Do you know he is?

[sammy_hansen]

No. Do you know he is?

No, of course not. But I’m not making accusations against him and his professionalism.

[Riv86672]

No. Do you know he is?

Exactly.

And really, if he IS joking, then, as someone who in RL always goes for the joke, i can say that, sometimes jokes dont land.

Of course, i dont have a bunch of ppl defending my bad jokes to the bitter end against those who didnt find them funny, that must me nice.

I've never had that...privilege.

[sammy_hansen]

Exactly.

And really, if he IS joking, then, as someone who in RL always goes for the joke, i can say that, sometimes jokes dont land.

Of course, i dont have a bunch of ppl defending my bad jokes to the bitter end against those who didnt find them funny, that must me nice.

I've never had that...privilege.

Just because you think the joke didn’t land or you don’t think it’s funny doesn’t mean that it’s not funny. That’s not how comedy works, dude.


And it’s interesting how people are castigating someone so much about an actor in a film they are literally not intending to watch.

[Bunch of Coconuts]

In the end, we’re all pretty privileged to be able to...erm...discuss such a trivial topic on our fancy computer devices.

[numberthirty]

I guess its easier to rebut arguments if you make the arguments up as you go?
Because no one's been asking for any of that.
PPL just think Pattinson should be in shape to play Batman, and gosh, golly by gum, dang it (pardon my French), thats not too much to expect.

Honestly, a handful of people, on a comic book message board, think that.

A few folks, even in this thread, have pointed out that it is largely a non-issue.

[sammy_hansen]

In the end, we’re all pretty privileged to be able to...erm...discuss such a trivial topic on our fancy computer devices.

Please, no jokes. Now is not the time.

[Bunch of Coconuts]

Please, no jokes. Now is not the time.

I was actually being half-serious, but slapping myself 5 times after catching up on the thread may have...done things to me.