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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Ronin View Post
    I think that is a shared sentiment of a lot of people, not that Luke is a mean spirited broken man, but the reason that he is that way.



    This is not the Luke that is in The Last Jedi... No body has gained anything from Luke's actions, the Galaxy is pretty much in the same place where it started when Luke entered the story. He is not carrying a burden he is running from it, hiding for selfish reasons becasue it was too much for him. It is not the fact that he is bitter and broken and alone, its the reasoning and motivation of why his is that way that many people have an issue with. Obi-Wan carried a burden, that he sat by while the empire gained more control over the people causing wide pain and suffering because it was his duty to watch over the son of the man that he couldn't save until the day Luke's time came. I don't think it is fair to say to someone that "I oh you what boring super god mode Luke" when you give the opinion that you don't like the cowardly self serving Luke of The Last Jedi as if those were the only two options.
    I really hate when people do that. It's really condescending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    It's a bit unclear I think why he decided to stay at the first Jedi Temple of all places. The between-trilogies EU (and some hints in the ST itself) seem to imply he was a bit of a Jedi Indiana Jones, trying to find old Jedi sites and stuff, but it's still not exactly clear why he chose that particular place to retire.
    This is a bit OT, but I just watched all of Clone Wars for the first time and I am looking for some more EU stuff. I'd really like to read something that stars Luke after ROJ. Any recommendations would be awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine12 View Post
    This is a bit OT, but I just watched all of Clone Wars for the first time and I am looking for some more EU stuff. I'd really like to read something that stars Luke after ROJ. Any recommendations would be awesome!
    In continuity, the biggest Luke book between ROTJ and TLJ is still The Legends of Luke Skywalker by Ken Liu; only one of the stories inside seems to be one that actually happened, but the test deals with his legend and somewhat hilarious misconceptions about it. It’s like the Legends of the Dark Knight episode from the Batman Animated Series. There also is that one mission in Battlefront II’s story mode, where Luke encounters one of Inferno Squad’s members and you get the the backstory of a prop briefly seen in the background of TLJ.

    ...If you don’t mind a recommendation from the old Legends EU that you may have heard fans debate about against of for TLJ’s comparative value with, I’d seriously recommend Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor. It’s probably the gold standard that Legends fans who dislike TLJ would hold up as what they could have had instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godisawesome View Post
    In continuity, the biggest Luke book between ROTJ and TLJ is still The Legends of Luke Skywalker by Ken Liu; only one of the stories inside seems to be one that actually happened, but the test deals with his legend and somewhat hilarious misconceptions about it. It’s like the Legends of the Dark Knight episode from the Batman Animated Series. There also is that one mission in Battlefront II’s story mode, where Luke encounters one of Inferno Squad’s members and you get the the backstory of a prop briefly seen in the background of TLJ.

    ...If you don’t mind a recommendation from the old Legends EU that you may have heard fans debate about against of for TLJ’s comparative value with, I’d seriously recommend Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor. It’s probably the gold standard that Legends fans who dislike TLJ would hold up as what they could have had instead.
    Thank you very much just picked up Shadow of Mindor on Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine12 View Post
    Thank you very much just picked up Shadow of Mindor on Amazon.
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    Mindor's pretty good. It's kind of interesting how-especially around that time-the books started to sort of mine some of the earlier EU. "Shadowspawn" in particular dates back to the 1979 newspaper comics. I think they're also one of the first appearances of Stormtroopers in black armor as well (although the TIE pilots do have a similar look).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    Mindor's pretty good. It's kind of interesting how-especially around that time-the books started to sort of mine some of the earlier EU. "Shadowspawn" in particular dates back to the 1979 newspaper comics. I think they're also one of the first appearances of Stormtroopers in black armor as well (although the TIE pilots do have a similar look).
    Shadows of Mindor has a crazy genesis - it was basically the result of about two decades of reference book filler and colorful-but-unseen background fluff slowly getting merged and welded together, from excuses given out to explain Luke not having a military rank like Han and Lando maintained in the Bantam Era EU to either a misspelling as “Mindar” or just a coincidence in planet name creation in other books, slowly built up almost as an in-joke... then handed to Matthew Mother-Kriffin’ Stover.

    I’ll be honest, I’d love to do some kind of debate about TLJ vs SoM as a kind of debate about which story just functions and executes better, and whether or not ones more faithful to the OT or too fan-services than the other.

    I mean, I firmly belief that TLJ is far more of a Luke film than a Rey film anyways, whether it was supposed to be or not, while SoM makes no bones about it (it’s even Luke’s story in the title!)

    And it could be argued SoM is the purest distillation of fan service and nerdy lore-building defining audience-expectations... and thus the perfect candidate to show the kind of “The great Luke Skywalker and his laser sword” that TLJ poo-pooed, even as it actually ends up having a somewhat similar intellectual and philosophical objectives as TLJ on the service in regards to Luke.

    Shadows of Mindor feels to me like it could be trotted out as the perfect counterargument and deconstruction of TLJ’s ideas and philosophies, accomplishing all their shared goals and scale, even while still being a bluntly crowd-pleasing story.
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