I really hope you are right about all that. I have to wait and see to be sure. After this announcement and the way AT&T are promoting it, I feel we could have more surprises coming..
There is a reason both Aquaman and WW retconned some things from the Snyder version of the characters. It made the characters look too dark and pessimistic. I hope their success and impact have some weight in all this and show those execs what is that general audiences and most fans really want to see.
His ideal story was turning Superman into a weak man going evil after Lois' murder... That scene in BvS when Bruce is having a "dream/vision" or whatever, it was a possible future. That was dark/evil Superman at his worst. Vengeful. I really hope and pray WB and AT&T don't let him put that version of the character in his JL movie. That would ruin Cavill as Superman in my mind.
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He had Clark being mind controlled by a villain something other writers have done before. Considering Johns wrote an entire comic event where several DC heroes were turned into murderous zombies that also liked to taunt their prey, I'm not sure what was there in Snyder's take he'd find so objectionable.
I haven't read Blackest Night so can't comment. It doesn't matter if he's been mind controlled if Superman still kill people while under it. It makes him look really really bad. And my understanding is that he also chose to give in to Darkseid because without Lois his life had no meaning or something like that. That to me is character assassination.
His idea was to have superman get more confident, extroverted... Etc. You do know that's what they always do with superman in every other outside media(turninh evil being a possible future) . Have you actually watched superman tas, jl or jlu? Why should i hate snyder for doing the same thing bruce timm does?
You haven't seen it either. Dude! Snyder from what i have seen isn't like the people who put on a face, like pr. What it sounds like and what it is can be vastly different. He might have trouble articulating what he wishes. Also, dcau justice lord superman french fries lex luthor for killing wally west.It's an alternate dark timeline designed to give the hero a warning, if he gives in to his dark desires he will become the monster he fights.
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No it wasn’t. The plan was for Superman to go evil at the end of JL2, and Batman was going to reboot the timeline with Flash’s help in JL3. Superman himself would’ve played no part in helping to set things right. Snyder has repeatedly shown that he has no interest in the classic Superman whatsoever.
Funniest part of all of this is that Snyder’s plan basically makes Jor-El completely wrong. Superman doesn’t inspire anything but pain and terror. Batman is the one who was going to save the day ultimately, with Superman being little more than a plot device.
No that’s basically how it happened. “She was my world”, is what he says. Also notice that Snyder never bothered to show Superman interacting with people on anything approaching a human level, he was always the tortured man-god suffering for my sins, (and showing signs of going EVILLLLL). His big realization at the end of BvS is not that humanity is flawed but still worth fighting for, but that Lois is the one bright light in a sea of **** so he’ll die for her.
Justice Lord Superman is not the real Superman dude... Anyone is capable of doing bad things, but the story of Superman (in my view) is that he is a good guy and nothing can corrupt him. If you think he could, then I don't share your view. It doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings like anyone else, but he has the strength to control his negative impulses. It's why he is the greatest. he is willing to sacrifice his life to save others he doesn't even know. Superman is goodness personified.
I have no interest in classic mainstream superman myself. He is lazy, arrogant, pushover, passionless, savior compex driven, non genuine goody two shoes naive, flying brick. I like siegel and shuster's superman. So, i wouldn't call that a sin. I like some other good portrayals as well.
"you are weak kal, unsure of yourself"
He was always meant to have a positive arc. Moreover, i have said it already. That was an alternate timeline designed to warn the hero. Otherwise it makes no sense in story to have superman be portrayed as evil.Sure, he will be tested but the guy will come on top of it.Besides, If you want to play that game. Batman is the one always saving the day. Because He atleast knows he has issues, unlike the naive boyscout..