Batwoman TV Series to Recast Batwoman

[Caivu]

Past 1000 now.

[Oberon]

Hopefully they get it now.

I think there is really no problem with recasting. Hello, it happens all the time. Sometimes there is an in-story reason. Any number of day or prime soaps have had a recast character who had plastic surgery or they just go with the best/hope for the best.

It should be done as a mystery, with the first couple of episodes showing Kate missing. I want to see Luke and Mary become or struggle with becoming Batwing and Flamebird or trying to fill in (it doesn't
work) *When new Kate comes back, the focus is on her training them and we just don't go there.

Alice and Jacob, pretty much most plots can go on. It makes the most sense.

[Bat-Meal]

Past 1000 now.

There are a LOT of these articles on various site (about why replacing Kate Kate is stupid), but this is written quite well:
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/replaci...terrible-idea/

I haven't seen anyone truly in favor of the idea of Ryan Wilder so far (apart from the showrunners), other than a handful saying she might be okay - so this isn't even a debate.

Sigh, well, no shortage of other shows to turn to.

[cgh]

James Bond was recast seven times, and after No Time To Die is released, it will be eight.

[Caivu]

James Bond was recast seven times, and after No Time To Die is released, it will be eight.

Those were all reboots, though. This isn't. The situations aren't analogous.

[Bat-Meal]

Those were all reboots, though. This isn't. The situations aren't analogous.

The situation is also the arrogance of the CW believing they can make a 'better' character than the one that already exists in the comics. If they absolutely had to go with a more chirpy protagonist, and couldn't help themselves but replace Kate - at the very least use someone else from the comics.

I could have accepted Stephanie Brown, she's more light-hearted than Kate, exists in the comics, and in an elseworlds actually has the Batwoman mantle. I wouldn't have been pleased, but I could accept it. Not this random Wilder girl though, ugh.

And before anyone says it, yes I realise Stephanie is hetero and that would cause backlash, but personally I love Kate for Kate not because she's gay, and I don't mind Stephanie or Cass (but I will always choose Kate first).

[cgh]

Those were all reboots, though. This isn't. The situations aren't analogous.

No they weren't. The only reboot happened with Daniel Craig in Casino Royale. Never Say Never Again and the original Casino Royale with David Niven as Bond did take place out of Eon continuity, however.

[Caivu]

No they weren't. The only reboot happened with Daniel Craig in Casino Royale.

What? Yes, they were, even if only soft ones. Connery's Bond is different from Moore's, for instance, and both of them are different than Brosnan's or Dalton's. There's no way to say that Dr. No takes place in the same universe as Goldeneye. Casino Royale was indeed also a reboot, but to a Bond that hadn't been as established yet.

[OpaqueGiraffe17]

The 007 movies have at best a loose continuity. Before the Craig reboot, there would be some continuity with the long running Spectre plot and references to Jame's dead wife from Her Majesty's secret service. Q was played by the same actor for the longest time. But it was loose, like there was a sliding timeline where Bond's age is concerned, and I'm pretty sure he and his old nemesis Ernst Blofield met for the "first time" like 3 times.
Maybe a better example is Dumbledoor in Harry Potter, or Rhodey in the MCU. As far as lead actors there was that Sparticus show where I think the first guy died. And Doctor Who is an obvious example as well with an in universe explanation (something I think they should have done here with Alice giving her sister a new face). So it's been done successfully in the past.

[qwazer07]

CW doesn't respect Kate Kane. If they did, they will recast her. Actors act roles. They can't own it.

[Digifiend]

Yeah. There has to be ways to do recasts. In this case, yeah, they could use Alice as the explanation. If someone quit a role in The Flash, they could've just had Barry screw up the timeline (like he did at the beginning of season 3) and suddenly, things have changed. They do need to do something about Elongated Man at the beginning of next season, but he's a shapeshifter (unlike in the comics, he doesn't just stretch - he's actually a composite of Ralph and Plastic Man) and thus can change his face, which would make a recast easy to explain if they go that route.

[Bat-Meal]

Word from one of the cast:
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https://twitter.com/NicoleKang/statu...15212919984129

[cgh]

What? Yes, they were, even if only soft ones. Connery's Bond is different from Moore's, for instance, and both of them are different than Brosnan's or Dalton's. There's no way to say that Dr. No takes place in the same universe as Goldeneye. Casino Royale was indeed also a reboot, but to a Bond that hadn't been as established yet.

As someone else mentioned, there was continuity, of a sort. I'm not saying there weren't continuity errors because back in the day, no one cared. But they weren't hard reboots between actors, that is for sure. The only official Eon hard reboot was the second Casino Royale.

But to avoid going off into the weeds, how about this example: Rhodey/War Machine was played by Terence Howard in Iron Man and Don Cheadle thereafter (apologies if anyone has already mentioned this).

[Bat-Meal]

Yeah, it can't be harder to recast than to make an OC nobody (but them) wants.

Anyone else find it almost contradictory that 'Ryan Wilder' is described as "likable" and "goofy", but also described as going on a vendetta against Scarecrow for killing her mother (in the articles). It's also implied that she's a killer.

Sooo, she's sort of Villanelle, or heck even a bit like Alice?

[sunofdarkchild]

In terms of James Bond, the death of his wife in On His Majesty's secret Service was brought up several times in the Moore films, so Moore at least was supposed to be the same guy ass Connery.