Page 1 of 7 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 105
  1. #1
    Astonishing Member stargazer01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,594

    Default Will CW's Batwoman Disgrace Batman like Supergirl Disgraced Superman?

    I completely agree with everything they said in this video. The way Superman was disrespected in the Supergirl show really annoyed me. And they did it over and over as a cheap way to elevate Kara. Really bad writing, imo. It's the main reason why I'm not excited about the announced Superman and Lois show.

    How do you Batman and Superman fans feel? Does it bother you?

    Note: I know Ruby Rose has left the show, but they'll surely replace her with a new actress to continue the story.


    Last edited by stargazer01; 05-20-2020 at 08:50 AM.

  2. #2
    Spectacular Member Grandmaster_J's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Parts Unknown
    Posts
    127

    Default

    Thankfully for myself, I never sat and watched Supergirl because I knew I wouldn't be entertained. But I remember in a crossover Supes said "The world doesn't Superman if it has Supergirl", I turned my T.V. off.

    And from I hear from those who cover Batwoman the show kind of already did with, Batman, by saying he abandoned Gotham.

  3. #3
    Extraordinary Member Güicho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    5,756

    Default

    You must have missed the whole:

    Fox-"The suit is literal perfection."
    Kane-"it will be, ...when it fits a woman"

    Fans-Why can't they just write Batwoman without implying they are "fixing" Batman - melt down.
    Last edited by Güicho; 05-21-2020 at 05:01 AM.

  4. #4
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Posts
    1,169

    Default

    You guys are really offended at that?

    Really?

  5. #5
    Extraordinary Member SiegePerilous02's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    9,786

    Default

    I'm not at all crazy about what went down with Superman, but I think "disgraced" is a little much

  6. #6
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    51,609

    Default

    I think "disgraced" is a bit much even if I feel like Superman's portrayal has been hampered by being a supporting character to Supergirl at times.

    As far as Batman...well, if you don't have a problem with him actually killing Joker, I don't think the show's take will bother you.

  7. #7
    Incredible Member Gaius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    688

    Default

    I haven't care for what I've seen of CW Superman but kind of seems like clickbait. I haven't watched much of the CW shows beyond their first seasons but the main point the guy seems to bring up about Superman getting jobbed out for Supergirl doesn't seem particularly egregious to call a "disgrace" or even unique to the CW.
    Last edited by Gaius; 05-20-2020 at 10:31 AM.

  8. #8
    Ultimate Member Sacred Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    17,178

    Default

    I'd say no just because of Batman's stature, but at the same time I don't feel I can underestimate the depth of CW's shoddy writing.
    "They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El

    "“Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer!”

  9. #9
    Extraordinary Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    9,295

    Default

    They are tv shows.

    There is no disgracing.

    This is the PRICE you pay when you hold franchises hostage around certain folks.

    This is what happens when you don't allow characters to stand on their own.

    Supergirl or Batwoman can't ruin 2 guys with a ton of movies and shows.

  10. #10
    Extraordinary Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    9,295

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    I haven't care for what I've seen of CW Superman but kind of seems like clickbait. I haven't watched much of the CW shows beyond their first seasons but the main point the guy seems to bring up about Superman getting jobbed out for Supergirl doesn't seem particularly egregious to call a "disgrace" or even unique to the CW.
    That happens when you have a network that panders to certain demos.

    Probably on CBS-you would have saw something different.

  11. #11
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Sesame Street
    Posts
    2,671

    Default

    The people who watch these shows are mostly
    A) people who are already invested in the Arrowverse
    B) people who typically watch CW dramas
    C) old people

    and then you have an assortment of comic book fans old and new. But these shows are long past disgracing the characters and source material. But I can argue the same for the MCU, DC films, etc. I will always say it, no film or TV series can replicate the greatness of a comic book and the vast intricacies that make up our favorite characters. It will never be done, especially not when so many versions and interpretations of characters exist (more notably in DC than anywhere else) . These characters will continue to thrive in all media because there are still so many interpretations that studios want to try their hand at; the disgracing has already happened and will continue to happen, but the non comic fans won’t ever be as disappointed as we are, and since these studios don’t make these movies and TV shows for us comic fans it doesn’t matter. The brand stays alive so the stories stay alive. Once in a while a diamond in the rough appears. Nothing beats comics though.

  12. #12
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    51,609

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    They are tv shows.

    There is no disgracing.

    This is the PRICE you pay when you hold franchises hostage around certain folks.

    This is what happens when you don't allow characters to stand on their own.

    Supergirl or Batwoman can't ruin 2 guys with a ton of movies and shows.
    Shouldn't this be seen more on the writers handling the characters within the respective shows then labeled as a result of how the franchises in general are handled?

  13. #13
    Incredible Member Gaius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    688

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    That happens when you have a network that panders to certain demos.

    Probably on CBS-you would have saw something different.
    I don’t know, just kind of hard for me to get up in arms over the possibility of Batman getting jobbed out or “disgraced” given the amount of times have writers have “jobbed” out other characters to make Batman (or members of the Bat-franchise) look cool.

  14. #14
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    22,990

    Default

    For God's sake. Comic book fans are determined to make themselves look like the pettiest, most entitled people on the planet.
    Last edited by Agent Z; 05-20-2020 at 11:01 AM.

  15. #15
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Posts
    1,169

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    For God's sake. Comic book fans are determined to make themselves look like the pettiest, most entitled people on the planet.
    This right here

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •