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    Thanos blurred?


    Doomsday clear?


    I get you hate the MCU movies and live Snyder. You are entitled to your opinions, But there is nothing objective about what you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Thanos blurred?


    Doomsday clear?


    I get you hate the MCU movies and live Snyder. You are entitled to your opinions, But there is nothing objective about what you say.
    pictures on the internet is not a good argument. You should have used HD videos on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    pictures on the internet is not a good argument. You should have used HD videos on youtube.
    I don't need to, I have seen both movies, more than once. I don't agree with your judgement in any way.

    But since you insist on "objectivity".

    Thanos all blurry
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    Doomsday clear as day.
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    The one seen in the sunlight several times is blurry and the one filmed entirely at night is the clear one lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Doomsday clear as day.
    Here is a better shot at the video to how clear we saw it in cinema.



    Doomsday look clearer, even though he has a more monstrous less human face than Thanos, dawn of justice is also helped far better with the cinematography of the movie. With Snyder films his cinematography elevates his VFX cannot say the same for Thanos, especially in Endgame and IW.

    Please remember Thanos was mostly daylight. all the battles took place in the morning or afternoon. Doomsday was night scenes which is harder to pull off and Snyder pulled it off.
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    This is what thanos loooked liked at night. He is more blured and his surroundings are worse. Dawn of Justice is the complete opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Here is a better shot at the video.



    Doomsday look clearer, even though he has a more monstrous less human face than Thanos, dawn of justice is also helped far better with the cinematography of the movie. With Snyder films his cinematography elevates his VFX cannot say the same for Thanos, especially in Endgame and IW.

    Please remember Thanos was mostly daylight. all the battles took place in the morning or afternoon. Doomsday was night scenes which is harder to pull off and Snyder pulled it off.
    CGI scenes set at night is a hack trick that directors use so they can hide bad special effects and designs in darkness. Doomsday is just a plot devise, while Thanos was a fully realized character.

    I am curious though, to see how Snyder handles a fully CG character in Steppenwolf. The designs lean more towards monster, but if Steppenwolf is an actual character with lines it will be something he hasn't done before, if the previous version was indeed solely a whedon creation.

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    So now Thanos is LESS blurred? And if BvS is the opposite, that means Doomsday was MORE blurred but the background looked better? And this somehow translates into DD looking better than Thanos? Have we changed dimensions again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
    So now Thanos is LESS blurred? And if BvS is the opposite, that means Doomsday was MORE blurred but the background looked better? And this somehow translates into DD looking better than Thanos? Have we changed dimensions again?
    Except Doomsday does not look all that blurred. I mean you can see the difference once we shift Thanos to night scenes. thanos can be straight out of a video game. Most Snyder movies including sucker punch , watchmen and 300 looks a lot more realistic than Thanos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Except Doomsday does not look all that blurred. I mean you can see the difference once we shift Thanos to night scenes. thanos can be straight out of a video game. Most Snyder movies including sucker punch , watchmen and 300 looks a lot more realistic than Thanos.
    You're the one who claimed DD was blurred and Thanos wasn't, though. I think you're confusing yourself at this point.

    Oh and also, that Endgame scene wasn't at night...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Tiger View Post
    CGI scenes set at night is a hack trick that directors use so they can hide bad special effects and designs in darkness. Doomsday is just a plot devise, while Thanos was a fully realized character.

    I am curious though, to see how Snyder handles a fully CG character in Steppenwolf. The designs lean more towards monster, but if Steppenwolf is an actual character with lines it will be something he hasn't done before, if the previous version was indeed solely a whedon creation.

    LOL. CGI set at night is not a hack trick. Most of the time directors choose night for tone, to those that brought up DOFP VFX may I remind you all the future scenes were night shots and that was the last movie from marvel that used mostly practical effects to CGI like Thanos it had nothing to to with been a hack.

    The Two Towers is the best Lord of the rings film and the final battle was at night.

    Terminator 2 final fight was at night

    Its odd you are calling night scene a trick when day scenes always tends to be the easiest to pull off, meaning it is more simple . most night scenes that succeed are film making achievements because that is a harder task to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    LOL. CGI set at night is not a hack trick. Most of the time directors choose night for tone, to those that brought up DOFP VFX may I remind you all the future scenes were night shots and that was the last movie from marvel that used mostly practical effects to CGI like Thanos it had nothing to to with been a hack.

    The Two Towers is the best Lord of the rings film and the final battle was at night.

    Terminator 2 final fight was at night
    yeah, wow. Night = dark. woo, deep.

    Also, did you think the sentinels in DoFP were practical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post

    Please remember Thanos was mostly daylight. all the battles took place in the morning or afternoon. Doomsday was night scenes which is harder to pull off and Snyder pulled it off.
    That is actually the opposite of what is true. Night time CGI is much easier.

    Well I'm done, no offense Castle, but you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to CGI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Tiger View Post
    yeah, wow. Night = dark. woo, deep.

    Also, did you think the sentinels in DoFP were practical?
    Most of the xmen movies were practical effects or more grounded cgi because many xmen directors favoured a more grounded looking comic films . Thanos is not meant to be in a grounded looking comic film so he has the basic CGI that has more to do with action figures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    That is actually the opposite of what is true. Night time CGI is much easier.
    Nope. its not a lie.

    In photography there is a reason why many photographers can get angry at a model when she is late because he is loosing the natural daylight. They always stress about taking advantage of day shots. Night time is harder because the CGI can easily get over shadowed in the night scenes and the directors has to do more to make it stand out in the night.

    Day Time is easier.

    Only talented people like Snyder or Cameron or Nolan can truly pull of night times because they challenge themselves as film makers and are allowed to. Whedon was just following a formula.
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