Zack Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE on HBOmax in 2021!

[Castle]

A lot of that first half of the pitch sounded like a bunch of solo movies stitched together.

For a moment I want.... han solo huh?

yes but that is what it looks like, it feels as if every hero is going to get some wake up darm moment before they go take down Darkseid

what I want to see most is superman and I would like a rematch, superman fights and beats batman convincingly.

[choptop]

I was wrong. It is sourced and confirmed:
https://bleedingcool.com/movies/zack...equel-jim-lee/

Wow, that is some awful crap. I can’t believe I defend Snyder.

I’ve been re-watching all the Nolan-verse/Snyder-verse films on HBO Max (it really doesn’t start with Snyder, but with Nolan), and there is a serious drop in quality starting with Batman v. Superman. I was so looking forward to the Snyder Cut Justice League, but plodding through Bat v Supes and Suicide Squad have me wondering what I was thinking. Even Dark Knight Rises and Wonder Woman have awful moments.

Try to watch Rises and attempt NOT to cheer for Bane at least a little, as annoying as that Bane voice is. It’s like, do it, do it, Bane! Blow up Gotham, because these people are fools who deserve it! Send the entire police force into the sewers? Great plan? And that’s Nolan, the alleged good stuff.

Do we need to discuss, really, how bad WW’s fight with Ares is? CGI-by-the-numbers — formulaic!!

Suicide Squad. I don’t... have the words. It’s so bad. It’s so bad, “Big Willie” Smith couldn’t even be bothered to provide a song for it. I bet watching it with the sound off and “Gettin’ Jiggy With It” playing over and over might make for a better viewing experience.

I’m still going to watch the Snyder Cut, but I can’t say I have much enthusiasm for it after watching all the movies in order, and after reading what is now confirmed to have been at least Snyder’s initial plans.

I think what really kills me is Geoff Johns and Jim Lee fully participated in all this crap. Snyder’s not their fault, but at what point do I as a fan look at the awfully bad product DC’s been churning out and just give up on it?

Why is Marvel so good, and DC so bad? I guess this is a question people have been asking since about 1961, with a couple dozen bright spots along the way. Watching all the Snyder/Nolan-verse movies, reading the actual plans Snyder had, and even reading the absolute hash they’re making of the comics, you have to wonder what does DC need to right the ship? I thought it was Snyder, that at least he had ideas, but after watching and reading, I was wrong. Although, I still liked Man Of Steel, and most of the movies have had some good moments. But DC needs some serious direction.

I just don’t know what the direction DC needs is, but I concede it’s not Snyder.

At least it will be interesting to see what AT&T does with DC, though I hate how they’ve laid off so much editorial staff. I hope they have better ideas for its movies.

Hey it's okay not to like the DCEU movie's they definitely are not perfect but saying things like marvel has been the best thing ever since 1961 and all the MCU movies are perfect and have no problems really makes you sond like one of those MCU super fans those people are like a cult it's scary!

[LifeIsILL]

LMAO!!!

Nah, that’s not the issue.

You're right. The issue is you saying DC has been so bad since 1961. I shouldn't have even bothered responding to your idiotic statement. LMAO!!!

[Rev9]

I will still give Snyder this — he has more ideas about a direction for DC than apparently anyone else working at DC/Warner/AT&T.

Here , here

[SiegePerilous02]

Hey it's okay not to like the DCEU movie's they definitely are not perfect but saying things like marvel has been the best thing ever since 1961 and all the MCU movies are perfect and have no problems really makes you sond like one of those MCU super fans those people are like a cult it's scary!

DC has been trailing behind Marvel off and on for decades in multiple areas. It's not that the MCU is perfect by any stretch, but they are far more consistent and overall successful with a wider array of characters than the film output by DC has been thus far.

And they aren't the only fanbase with cult-like behavior...

Marvel definitely hasn't been the "best thing ever" always though, the gaps in quality between the two universes isn't always that big and DC has pulled ahead of them at times.

[choptop]

DC has been trailing behind Marvel off and on for decades in multiple areas. It's not that the MCU is perfect by any stretch, but they are far more consistent and overall successful with a wider array of characters than the film output by DC has been thus far.

And they aren't the only fanbase with cult-like behavior...

Marvel definitely hasn't been the "best thing ever" always though, the gaps in quality between the two universes isn't always that big and DC has pulled ahead of them at times.

I definitely agree with you mostly as for the MCU fans just for me personally the super fans seem to be way more out there then other cult like fans at least from what I've seen.

[LifeIsILL]

DC has been trailing behind Marvel off and on for decades in multiple areas.

Everyone knows DC isn't as popular as Marvel, that's been true for a long time. But that doesn't mean DC has been "awful since the 60s". That would imply the best DC stuff was from the 1930s - 1960.

[green_garnish]

It's mostly that when Marvel does something good, it's instantly recognized and applauded.

When DC does something good (that's not Batman), it gets ignored and no one knows about it, or cares.

I'd argue its more likely to happen when DC hires traditionally Marvel talent and you get something like fantastic like Teen Titans. Now there's a bright spot.

At the same time Starlin was doing lead-ins to Infinity War, Cary Bates was doing Flash one off issues where there was still an editorial mandate to have a new way to change into their costume every month.

[Castle]

DC has been trailing behind Marvel off and on for decades in multiple areas. It's not that the MCU is perfect by any stretch, but they are far more consistent and overall successful with a wider array of characters than the film output by DC has been thus far.

And they aren't the only fanbase with cult-like behavior...

Marvel definitely hasn't been the "best thing ever" always though, the gaps in quality between the two universes isn't always that big and DC has pulled ahead of them at times.

If this snyder's cut film succeeds with wonder woman 2 dismal feedback. I think DC will just officially now just be their own thing.

also we know why snyder never gave wonder woman her most colourful costume.

[choptop]

If this snyder's cut film succeeds with wonder woman 2 dismal feedback. I think DC will just officially now just be their own thing.

also we know why snyder never gave wonder woman her most colourful costume.

What's that about wonder woman?

[SiegePerilous02]

If this snyder's cut film succeeds with wonder woman 2 dismal feedback. I think DC will just officially now just be their own thing.

also we know why snyder never gave wonder woman her most colourful costume.

What does her costume have to do with anything?

Her costume looked better in Jenkins' movie when we could actually see it.

[Castle]

What does her costume have to do with anything?

Her costume looked better in Jenkins' movie when we could actually see it.

wonder woman 1 costume was snyder's vision. perhaps it was not that clear since she only wore it at night in BvS.

the costume was to be a metaphor of some problems that DC should have easily avoided.

[SiegePerilous02]

wonder woman 1 costume was snyder's vision. perhaps it was not that clear since she only wore it at night in BvS.

the costume was to be a metaphor of some problems that DC should have easily avoided.

Yeah it's a good costume. It just happened to look better with better lighting.

I'm not sure what metaphor we're meant to be taking away here.

[Alan2099]

also we know why snyder never gave wonder woman her most colourful costume.

We already knew that. Snyder just plain hates colorful things.

[Castle]

Yeah it's a good costume. It just happened to look better with better lighting.

I'm not sure what metaphor we're meant to be taking away here.

DC went all big rainbows and colors and comic bookie with 84. now they are back to square 1.

the metaphor is that I will likely be seeing the snyder cut as a much worthy DC entry than 84.