The idea that Snyder's Justice League will be universally loved, when both his other films are so divisive, seems unlikely.
It is literally the same costume. Superheroes mostly wear bright, colorful costumes and people are fine with it. Of the numerous complaints about WW8, the costume being colorful was not one of them.
Let's not count our chickens before they hatch. We don't know if the Snyder cut will be a big hit with people outside of the core fanbase. BvS was poised to be a hit and we all know how quickly people lost interest in that. It might be a hit, it might also get an underwhelming reception like WW84 did.
In very surface level ways that don't seem like they ever had a chance to pan out in an interesting way if the leaked early plot ideas are any indication of where the mind set was
Clark was a mostly passive plot device in the films, he would have remained so all the way through his five film "arc". It raised questions in an attempt to appear smart, but didn't set out to devote time to exploring them. It would have devolved into action figures punching each other in the end.
I disagree. I don't think we even need to address the idea of whether Superman is a threat or not.it handled the superman is a threat or not issue well
Think about it. Is there anyone that wanted a Superman movie where there's a good point about him being a threat, or do people want a Superman movie where he's very clearly a superhero?
Look at Ghostbusters (the original classic). Peck did have some good points, but at no point in the movie did they ever even try to make you think that the good guys in the movie weren't actually the good guys.
Having just watched all the Snyderverse DC movies up to Justice League, I give odds on the Snyder Cut being a hit at 50-50, at best. Being on HBO Max and not at theaters, I don’t know what kind of metrics Warner/AT&T are using to judge whether or not it’s successful. I think we’ll only ever know if critics and fans like it or not.
The real interesting thing is what if it is massively successful, what does DCEU do then? Bring back Snyder?
Snyder at least has ideas, but they’re so hit and miss.
Warner has made such a hash of its movie “universe” franchise, I’m not sure if anything can be done to put it back together.
Why not? I certainly do, and I imagine there are others who want it to be explored as well.
I liked how it was kind of explored in Early New 52 (where Clark was still figuring things out. Unfortunately they decided to abandon that and do a time skip). Most stories just outright skip to Superman being an established hero...I want more stories where he's figuring it out and where the world is coming to terms with his existence.
DC Extended Universe Thread (DCEU)
That's how it starts. The fever. The rage. The feeling of powerlessness. That turns good men....Cruel - Alfred.
This may be the only thing that I do that matters - Bruce.
Stay down, if I wanted it, you would be dead already - Clark.
It might be interesting to explore if it is actually done well and Clark comes out looking like a three dimensional hero who ends up being embraced in the end. The New 52 version may have resolved it too quickly, but at least he had a personality and earned the right to be embraced by saving the day.
This wasn't the case with the movies. He's a passive 2 dimensional bore for the most part who doesn't seem to want to be Superman, the questions are raised but not really examined and then he dies and everyone loves his memory. It wants his death to mean something even though he wasn't established and loved enough before hand to earn it. Doing it half assed is worse than not doing it at all.
to be a fair critic, I hope DC in time will let go of of this false narrative that there needs to be a big villain fight in the end. look at comic films from 15- 20 years ago. the dark knight has no big 3rd act cgi fight, X-Men 2 had no big 3rd act cgi fight, Spiderman 2 had no big 3rd act cgi act. none of them pulled that generic superhero gimmick in the last act of their movies.
BvS should have ended with the batman v superman fight, Doomsday was a weakness. the fight was not necessary and was not even a main part of the story , it was just there because...this is what we expect from comic books. a big ending cgi fight where you are going to wreck the whole place.
Wonder Woman was already in the 2nd act movie, nothing would have changed much if the doomsday fight was removed, Bruce already knew who she was at the party anyway.
the main fight was batman v superman and it was great and tied to the plot that had been building.,
But the Doomsday fight was the movie trying to be Avengers or Transformers but only with much courtesy because the news kept on telling us ,there was no people in the city that doomdsay was burning down.
That was a weakness of the film I will admit as a fan.