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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I am not surprised so many people said Captain America. But I am surprised at the Spiderman answers. In the few modern titles I have read that had Spiderman with any other hero other then Fantastic Four or Daredevil, like when he was on the Avengers I see Spiderman written as a jokester and the other heroes treating him as such.
    I know Daredevil is one of your exceptions, but Matt speaks very VERY highly of Spider-Man in a recent DD issue. Something along the lines of him being the "best of all of them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc008 View Post
    I know Daredevil is one of your exceptions, but Matt speaks very VERY highly of Spider-Man in a recent DD issue. Something along the lines of him being the "best of all of them."
    In issue 5 of Chip Zdarsky's run: "He's pure power and he doesn't even know it. He's the best of us." In that same issue, Spider-Man confronts Matt on his downward spiral and demands that he step back from the superhero life until he can get his s*** together. Something to that effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I am not surprised so many people said Captain America. But I am surprised at the Spiderman answers. In the few modern titles I have read that had Spiderman with any other hero other then Fantastic Four or Daredevil, like when he was on the Avengers I see Spiderman written as a jokester and the other heroes treating him as such.
    I think heroes that don't know Spider-Man that well don't necessarily respect him as much as they should. But I think any hero with even a relative amount of experience with him know that he's very special.

    I think a lot of people act more annoyed, which can sometimes give the appearance that they don't respect him. But a lot of heroes respect and like him more than they sometimes will let on. Hulk and Wolverine for example have both indicated in thought bubbles that they like Spider-Man more than they care to admit at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    In issue 5 of Chip Zdarsky's run: "He's pure power and he doesn't even know it. He's the best of us." In that same issue, Spider-Man confronts Matt on his downward spiral and demands that he step back from the superhero life until he can get his s*** together. Something to that effect.
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    I am not surprised so many people said Captain America. But I am surprised at the Spiderman answers. In the few modern titles I have read that had Spiderman with any other hero other then Fantastic Four or Daredevil, like when he was on the Avengers I see Spiderman written as a jokester and the other heroes treating him as such.
    Yeah but thats bendis "chaos magic isn't real". He never got upset ignoring history. He more or less wrote a kid spidey and not a hero with over 30 years of history who was as much of a pro as iron man by this point.

    In avengers 1 vol 3 sandman defends spidey after one of the avengers disses him saying he is worth three of him! They did a issue where spidey has been missing amd most of the heroes want spidey back. Even cap says "We do what we do becouse he does what he does. We can't fight kang or ultron if we are dealing with kingpin or dr ock."

    Great line from that issue. In two what if stories where spidey dies hulk gets upset over it even saying he liked spidey. Marvel forgets they were friends in the 70s but two of the what if writers at least remembered it.

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    Definitely Steve Rogers, most respected in the Marvel universe/MU general public and my heart.

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    Yep, and any writer who would dare write differently would be branded a socialist or a Communist, or something un-American, and told to leave the country...by way of China.
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    Captain America without a doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    I think heroes that don't know Spider-Man that well don't necessarily respect him as much as they should. But I think any hero with even a relative amount of experience with him know that he's very special.

    I think a lot of people act more annoyed, which can sometimes give the appearance that they don't respect him. But a lot of heroes respect and like him more than they sometimes will let on. Hulk and Wolverine for example have both indicated in thought bubbles that they like Spider-Man more than they care to admit at times.
    I'd agree with that take.

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    Yup! That's the one. Thanks!
    You're welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    Yeah but thats bendis "chaos magic isn't real". He never got upset ignoring history. He more or less wrote a kid spidey and not a hero with over 30 years of history who was as much of a pro as iron man by this point.

    In avengers 1 vol 3 sandman defends spidey after one of the avengers disses him saying he is worth three of him! They did a issue where spidey has been missing amd most of the heroes want spidey back. Even cap says "We do what we do becouse he does what he does. We can't fight kang or ultron if we are dealing with kingpin or dr ock."

    Great line from that issue. In two what if stories where spidey dies hulk gets upset over it even saying he liked spidey. Marvel forgets they were friends in the 70s but two of the what if writers at least remembered it.
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    Among the in-universe general public, across the board, I'd agree it's Cap. However, Charliehustle425 and Frontier touch on some important nuance.
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    Captain America, but I also think Black Panther is nearly his equal nowadays.
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    People respect T'Challa but there's always a slight distrust or worry over his loyalties to Wakanda or his own secrets. Cap is pretty much an open book and is loyal to the dream more then he is America in isolation (not that T'Challa only cares about Wakanda, but it's more complicated for him since he's their king).
    Cap represents conventional, white, male America. I can see the general public of many other countries having reservations about him.

    I can see some women in the MU's US much preferring Captain Marvel or She-Hulk, or - especially in New York - African Americans preferring Luke Cage.

    I don't see too many MU/US residents disliking Captain America, but I can see how some might have other preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    I think heroes that don't know Spider-Man that well don't necessarily respect him as much as they should. But I think any hero with even a relative amount of experience with him know that he's very special.

    I think a lot of people act more annoyed, which can sometimes give the appearance that they don't respect him. But a lot of heroes respect and like him more than they sometimes will let on. Hulk and Wolverine for example have both indicated in thought bubbles that they like Spider-Man more than they care to admit at times.
    Especially in the era of crossovers and events happening so often. As an avenger he won over wolverine and iron man. Cap had ben shown to respect him.


    As for the most resected.
    Cap (at a low ebb now but most know better)
    The Thing
    Luke Cage


    I agree spiderman is respected by those who know him. He has people he can count on in every team. I wish he was back on one, but because of his many guest spots and the run of MTU he got to know a lot of characters. It is not long before others she his serious side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I am not surprised so many people said Captain America. But I am surprised at the Spiderman answers. In the few modern titles I have read that had Spiderman with any other hero other then Fantastic Four or Daredevil, like when he was on the Avengers I see Spiderman written as a jokester and the other heroes treating him as such.
    To quote Wolverine "He is good in a fight"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewGod View Post
    Among the in-universe general public, across the board, I'd agree it's Cap. However, Charliehustle425 and Frontier touch on some important nuance.



    Cap represents conventional, white, male America. I can see the general public of many other countries having reservations about him.

    I can see some women in the MU's US much preferring Captain Marvel or She-Hulk, or - especially in New York - African Americans preferring Luke Cage.

    I don't see too many MU/US residents disliking Captain America, but I can see how some might have other preferences.
    True, but it's the ideal/romanticized white, male American view and the corporate superhero landscape is nothing but idealistic.

    Nevertheless, this is why Black Panther is close behind him; because he's the leader of the most powerful nation on the Marvel Earth.

    So, I can see T'Challa being respected by people of color all over the planet and Cage is a good candidate but he's too localized and most people would not know who he is in China let alone Wyoming; but I think the OP is asking for the 616 as it is and as the 616 stands it most likely is Cap.
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    Cap easily.

    I remember an issue of Spider-Man where Storm and Jean Grey got into it and Cap stepped in and they immediately stopped fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charliehustle415 View Post
    True, but it's the ideal/romanticized white, male American view and the corporate superhero landscape is nothing but idealistic.

    Nevertheless, this is why Black Panther is close behind him; because he's the leader of the most powerful nation on the Marvel Earth.

    So, I can see T'Challa being respected by people of color all over the planet and Cage is a good candidate but he's too localized and most people would not know who he is in China let alone Wyoming; but I think the OP is asking for the 616 as it is and as the 616 stands it most likely is Cap.
    Yeah. Steve is the most respected across the board but certain pocket communities have their own Capain America. Cyclops for a long time was sort of considered the Captain America for mutants at least until the Schism/AvX stuff completely flipped that on him. Luke Cage is the Captain America of Harlem. T'Challa obviously is the Captain America of Wakanda. And I think to a lot of YOUNG super heroes Spider-Man is sort of their Captain America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliehustle415 View Post
    True, but it's the ideal/romanticized white, male American view and the corporate superhero landscape is nothing but idealistic.

    Nevertheless, this is why Black Panther is close behind him; because he's the leader of the most powerful nation on the Marvel Earth.

    So, I can see T'Challa being respected by people of color all over the planet and Cage is a good candidate but he's too localized and most people would not know who he is in China let alone Wyoming; but I think the OP is asking for the 616 as it is and as the 616 stands it most likely is Cap.
    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Yeah. Steve is the most respected across the board but certain pocket communities have their own Capain America. Cyclops for a long time was sort of considered the Captain America for mutants at least until the Schism/AvX stuff completely flipped that on him. Luke Cage is the Captain America of Harlem. T'Challa obviously is the Captain America of Wakanda. And I think to a lot of YOUNG super heroes Spider-Man is sort of their Captain America.
    I do agree that Cap is probably the all-around champion in this category. He's probably the one character that most every good-guy in the MU would listen to, maybe not agree with him, but would at least shutup long enough to hear out.

    Still, it's the exceptions I find interesting. i.e. Does the 616 corporate world find Iron Man most trustworthy because he's one of them?

    I would think a lot, especially those outside the mainstream, have an affinity for Spider-Man because he could be anybody under that mask. So there's no reason to suppose he's not like them.

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