Originally Posted by
Restingvoice
Ah. This is pretty much New 52 Helena Bertinelli's justification of killing. Secret agents, espionage agents, and soldiers are justified in killing to prevent further injustice, stops the war, and protect the people they love from becoming further victims.
Something that Dick Grayson still refused to do, which is why she told him this.
Current Batman is like that. In a war zone, he still won't shoot to kill. He uses Batplane to scatter the army, deliberately missing, tear gas to incapacitate or panic, then jumped down, throwing batarangs to disarm or more tear gas, followed by martial arts to finish the fight, tying them up once they're done.
Dick does the same, without Batplane, he just jumps from the plane to the middle of the camp and starts disarming and incapacitating them with his batons.
If Jason's there, Batman allows him to use guns, but to kneecaps only or to disarm.
Of course they can't do this against a large army, but against one group or small encampment, two of the Batfam is enough.