Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
With Batman legally it's far more problematic than with Spider-Man.
-- Batman is obviously operating with the consent of the police and has never been legally deputized.
-- They have a Batsignal located on the roof of Police HQ.
-- There's numerous evidence of collusion between a vigilante and the Police Commissioner.
-- Whatever evidence Batman has acquired and deposited, it's clearly not been acquired with the proper procedures or with a warrant. And yet since he's acting rather blatantly with police support, a defense lawyer has a lot of good arguments to invalidate arrests. Especially for American citizens like Batman's rogues usually are.

If a private citizen acting without police support and help were to bring forth evidence or leak ito the press and so on, that evidence can be used since there's no question on the part of the police about needing a warrant or following procedures. That's why whistle-blowing is such a big deal and why WikiLeaks was a big thing until they got bought by Putin.



Well Mongul is not a human being. Since he's acting as an invader of a superior force threatening the whole planet, then legally he would be considered a war criminal. Legally though, under the "ain't no rule" justification, Superman can fry Mongul's skull with heat vision and walk scott-free since Mongul has no legal rights and recognition as a human being. If Superman were to attack and kill Mongul in battle, then it would be justifiable under Geneva convention's law and custom of wars where violence towards enemy combatant is licensed. Legally speaking, for instance, Norman Osborn cannot be considered guilty for killing Ben Reilly. Ben Reilly is not a human being, he's a clone. Since he has no legal recognition as a person, Norman Osborn killing him wouldn't qualify as murder.



In the case of CIVIL WAR, Reed Richards' would be judged for war crimes and excessive force in terms of detaining many US citizens without due process, without habeas corpus, in unsanitary conditions and certainly I'd say him illegally cloning Thor would at the very least have him debarred and black-balled from the scientific community with many universities rescinding their doctorates from him.
Illegally cloning Thor would also have him on the hook for felony murder, possibly, since the Thor clone killed Bill Foster/Goliath, which contributed to Spider-Man deciding to oppose the SHRA.