Examples of Good Cops and Examples of Police Brutality in X-MEN comics

[Rzerox21xx]

i figure with the current climate going on, it might be fun to made a thread to talk about the various examples of X-MEN comics where there friends in the force or just plain hostility.

a few examples.

1. The few cops we saw in God Loves Man Kills, especially the one cop that shot Reverend Stryker who was about to shoot Kitty.
2. Tom Corsi(who was awkwardly racebended from Caucasian to Native American)
3. The one cop that praise Sunsport for helping out a rescue even though everyone was thanking She-hulk, thats a good one.
4. The rookie cop that show remorse over shooting a mutant dead during the Massacre saga in the last X-factor of that crossover. he was really broken up by it and when he saw her use her powers he fire.
5. forgot Misty Knight in the 70s. screw it doesnt have to be in order.
6. Charlotte Jones who dated Warren and was a allied, she even got the hookup of body armor of a basic x-uniform.
7. The 1 Cop in Texas that defended Storm from a lynch mob after she was making sure debris from the explosion of Forge building. that was a cool moment
8. The one cop in Joe mad first Phalanx issue that helped Storm.
9 the 2 cops that were helped by Storm and Marrow in Seagle and Kelly x-men run.
10. Bishop partner in Mutant town


i might have missed quite a number

for the most part, the x-men and mutants in general dont get the warmest welcome from the police. they often get shot at too, so I leave you to show incidents, i mean what i can think of, well heres 3. 1. Cops in mutant massacre that were praising x-factor especially the one cop that dont event trust the avengers and think they are as bad any mutant. 2. early in Claremont/David 3rd Uncanny run, Wolverine and Nightcrawler trying to diffuse a situation where met with hostility and arrest despite being official and having badges. it took Carol Danver coming in and telling them to let both of them call, 3. so many in Bendis run but the one thats a pure police brutality was when I forgot the mutant who control vehicles, he got shot and is dying and the cops happy he's dying and goading, he would have died if Magik and the Cuckoos hadnt shown and gave them a taste of hell. or the cops that arrested teen Bobby in the ultimate universe for stopping a giant monsters and made their anti-mutant view very blanant well thats alot.

anyway as i read more x-men and spiderman and at first years ago I wonder why alot of the times Cops are trigger happy aholes and often get surprised when i see a good cop but as I see in the news nowadays since recently in the 2010s, im starting to see the sad reality that whats portray in comics is not far from the truth and everything is not black and white. hell i just recently watched batman year one and the kind of police corruption in it, the cops there that is not Commissioner Gordon are so obviously evil, they might has well have mustache twirling habits.

[People Of The Earth]

i figure with the current climate going on, it might be fun to made a thread to talk about the various examples of X-MEN comics where there friends in the force or just plain hostility.

a few examples.

1. The few cops we saw in God Loves Man Kills, especially the one cop that shot Reverend Stryker who was about to shoot Kitty.
2. Tom Corsi(who was awkwardly racebended from Caucasian to Native American)
3. The one cop that praise Sunsport for helping out a rescue even though everyone was thanking She-hulk, thats a good one.
4. The rookie cop that show remorse over shooting a mutant dead during the Massacre saga in the last X-factor of that crossover. he was really broken up by it and when he saw her use her powers he fire.
5. forgot Misty Knight in the 70s. screw it doesnt have to be in order.
6. Charlotte Jones who dated Warren and was a allied, she even got the hookup of body armor of a basic x-uniform.
7. The 1 Cop in Texas that defended Storm from a lynch mob after she was making sure debris from the explosion of Forge building. that was a cool moment
8. The one cop in Joe mad first Phalanx issue that helped Storm.
9 the 2 cops that were helped by Storm and Marrow in Seagle and Kelly x-men run.
10. Bishop partner in Mutant town


i might have missed quite a number

for the most part, the x-men and mutants in general dont get the warmest welcome from the police. they often get shot at too, so I leave you to show incidents, i mean what i can think of, well heres 3. 1. Cops in mutant massacre that were praising x-factor especially the one cop that dont event trust the avengers and think they are as bad any mutant. 2. early in Claremont/David 3rd Uncanny run, Wolverine and Nightcrawler trying to diffuse a situation where met with hostility and arrest despite being official and having badges. it took Carol Danver coming in and telling them to let both of them call, 3. so many in Bendis run but the one thats a pure police brutality was when I forgot the mutant who control vehicles, he got shot and is dying and the cops happy he's dying and goading, he would have died if Magik and the Cuckoos hadnt shown and gave them a taste of hell. or the cops that arrested teen Bobby in the ultimate universe for stopping a giant monsters and made their anti-mutant view very blanant well thats alot.

anyway as i read more x-men and spiderman and at first years ago I wonder why alot of the times Cops are trigger happy aholes and often get surprised when i see a good cop but as I see in the news nowadays since recently in the 2010s, im starting to see the sad reality that whats portray in comics is not far from the truth and everything is not black and white. hell i just recently watched batman year one and the kind of police corruption in it, the cops there that is not Commissioner Gordon are so obviously evil, they might has well have mustache twirling habits.

Beyond corruption that is a 1:1 fair comparison that can be made, I Don't think you can compare how the police and some of its officers reacts in the MU to how the police and some of its officers reacts IRL.

Some posters hate it when it's pointed out but, whenever they awaken their powers for the first time, mutants can potentially harm and kill the people in their direct vicinity depending on the nature of their new powers.
That's not the case of human beings IRL and that's what makes both contexts different… The equivalency between the two situations is superficial at best.
Skin color, sexual orientation, gender, religious beliefs, political affiliation - those traits aren't a danger in themselves, the way guns or explosives are IRL, or the way superstrength or psychic powers are in comics.
The threshold for abuses is also higher as a result.

Being wary of mutants in-universe is actually understandable.
Being wary of people IRL because of their skin color, sexual orientation, etc. isn't on the other hand.

That being said, you asked for examples of police brutality and/or police cooperation ("good" cop), so I'll indulge with the later:

That time the X-Men worked with the police on the murder of Jumbo Carnation.




That time two officers were standing between a mob and Emma' students at Salem.

[Rzerox21xx]

I'm sorry, did i do something wrong, Ill delete this right now if its not the right time. but I guess the x-men and spiderman made me realized how crappy most cops are athough there few good ones. believe me Im getting pissed off at police brutality right now I guess x-men had examples of it. oh man i feel like I messed up, im very sorry.

well I can't seem to delete this or any thread in the history but if this is a inappropriate time I'm sorry feel free to delete this. i really terrible in reading the environment which is why i really bad in social situations

[Alex.]

I'm not sure of your point here. My guess is that you're pointing how comics portrays cops (usually bad, sometimes good) and if this is art copying real life or real life copying art. And maybe for how long this has been going on?

I think comics rely a little bit more on cops to show how "dirty" a system can be because it's easier to write that than to an in-universe Congress or a Justice System to then shred them down and show how corrupt they can be. Maybe this is -another- factor on why they're usually used the way they are. Specially because comics have the "good guys" to deal with thos "evil guys".

Not really relevant to what you're saying, but maybe this gives you hope, if you need in such times, but about the "most cops being crappy" part. I don't agree with that. Maybe this is true for the US (not sure, I've never been there nor want to be), but there are some places where I heard and seen mostly good things about them, like Germany, Sweden and Australia. But again, probably not relevant.

Take care

[Rzerox21xx]

I'm not sure of your point here. My guess is that you're pointing how comics portrays cops (usually bad, sometimes good) and if this is art copying real life or real life copying art. And maybe for how long this has been going on?

I think comics rely a little bit more on cops to show how "dirty" a system can be because it's easier to write that than to an in-universe Congress or a Justice System to then shred them down and show how corrupt they can be. Maybe this is -another- factor on why they're usually used the way they are. Specially because comics have the "good guys" to deal with thos "evil guys".

Not really relevant to what you're saying, but maybe this gives you hope, if you need in such times, but about the "most cops being crappy" part. I don't agree with that. Maybe this is true for the US (not sure, I've never been there nor want to be), but there are some places where I heard and seen mostly good things about them, like Germany, Sweden and Australia. But again, probably not relevant.

Take care

from a international perspective I take your word for it, I want to believe in hope, yeah the US not a good place right now with how the Police seem to protray, but yeah I guess what I said in my 2nd post. its more like I just sorta Panicked thinking I offended everything here for creating a topic for conversation and apologized.

[Maestroneto]

There was a (admittedly white) character standing up to police brutality in the X-books a couple years ago but Marvel writers said he was wrong and literally Hitler.

[Rzerox21xx]

There was a (admittedly white) character standing up to police brutality in the X-books a couple years ago but Marvel writers said he was wrong and literally Hitler.

yeah not a big fan to how the world view and treated Scott.

[Glio]

There was a (admittedly white) character standing up to police brutality in the X-books a couple years ago but Marvel writers said he was wrong and literally Hitler.

In hindsight, trying to tell us that Cyclops was bad for saving teenagers from police brutality and racist cops is awkward. Very awkward.

[Wolverine12]

I'm sorry, did i do something wrong, Ill delete this right now if its not the right time. but I guess the x-men and spiderman made me realized how crappy most cops are athough there few good ones. believe me Im getting pissed off at police brutality right now I guess x-men had examples of it. oh man i feel like I messed up, im very sorry.

well I can't seem to delete this or any thread in the history but if this is a inappropriate time I'm sorry feel free to delete this. i really terrible in reading the environment which is why i really bad in social situations

You're good man. Nothing wrong with your original post.

[Steel Inquisitor]

The X-men by Stan lee and Jack Kirby, the original mutant police - unofficial agents of the FBI.



Edit: The X-men worked for The Man before the Avengers did.

The various X-Factor's who worked as mutant police for the US government, directly.

[Tycon]

You're good man. Nothing wrong with your original post.

Why did you delete my comment about real history? There’s nothing wrong with historical context.

[Wolverine12]

Why did you delete my comment about real history? There’s nothing wrong with historical context.

I gave a reason. Also context matters. End of discussion.

[Glio]

Historically, the times that mutants have collaborated with the government and the police have ended badly. Remember when San Francisco almost stabbed Utopia in the back in Fear Itself?

And you just have to see how the police react to seeing a mutant, they point their guns first and ask questions later.

So, it is justified that mutants have no interest in collaborating or trusting them.

[FIGHT]

Are you joking right now?

Is this subject taboo or something?

Anyway I cant recall any cops who had real significance in the x-men universe atm.

[charliehustle415]

Wouldn't Sentinels be a stand in for over zealous policing? I mean the government created killer robots to keep a minority race/species (homo superior) in check.