Kinda my thought? Jason Aaron's (unworthy) Thor is a travesty. And, as mentioned, worthy Thors showing under Ewing against Immortal Hulk was a complete embarrassment. On the other hand, Thors board ruled speed should at least apply to worthy Thor.
Honestly, if I were writing Thor, once i was done with the black winter, I'd find a way to retcon just about everything Jason Aaron wrote and Thors low showing against immortal Hulk. I mean...geez.
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06-09-2020, 12:22 AM #16Death of Time
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06-09-2020, 11:19 AM #17Pro Mutant
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I mean it's not THAT out of the ordinary.
Hulk has always been Thor's equal, and with rage boost superior, in terms of raw physical strength.
I don't think anybody disputes that Thor using all of his abilities without PIS would make short work of Bruce, but this Thor just doesn't have access to them. And this Hulk is the strongest ever.
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06-09-2020, 03:30 PM #18Death of Time
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The edge in strength is Hulks for a stretch now. Post warp core provides a basis for the gap in strength to increase even more. Additionally, each personality is it's own animal seemingly. Immortal Hulk is the manifestation of the "monster" (Bruce's early childhood) personality to protect Bruce from another monster (his abusive father). So far, this manifestation of Bruce, examined in a bubble, is pretty powerful. Personally, I'm more inclined to lend weight to boosts in strength for any version of Hulk to the old "the madder Hulk gets!...", etc...as much as boosts from the warp core. If we take the showing of worthy Thor against Immortal Hulk to heart, the gap has grown to shameful levels, my honest appraisal.
Originally Posted by Anarchist
More or less the conclusion I've drawn.I don't think anybody disputes that Thor using all of his abilities without PIS would make short work of Bruce, but this Thor just doesn't have access to them. And this Hulk is the strongest ever."Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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06-09-2020, 03:38 PM #19Prince of Duckness
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It’s not the strongest ever Hulk. From everything I hear, Immortal Hulk’s big thing is his regen. I mean, yes, sure, he’s strong - he’s the very definition of Ruffalulk’s “I’m always angry”, but his regen is through the roof.
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06-09-2020, 03:39 PM #20She/Her
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I mean if he's one-shot cracking Thor's skull, he's also the strongest. Originally Posted by Beadle
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
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06-09-2020, 03:40 PM #21Astonishing Member
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Well cracking Thor's skull in one shot is pretty up there for strength. What Hulk beats that? Maybe War Hulk stopping the Juggernaut? Originally Posted by Beadle
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06-09-2020, 03:55 PM #22Prince of Duckness
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OK, sorry, I completely overlooked that feat.
Yes, I would have put War Hulk above him, but that feat does kinda shift things.
Fairy Nuff.
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06-09-2020, 05:36 PM #23Astonishing Member
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Also, if we are only using Worthy Thor performances, Thor would lack his crucial speed advantage.
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06-09-2020, 05:55 PM #24Extraordinary Member
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To be fair that occurred still pretty solidly in the "Thor is trash" epoch. Originally Posted by Captain Morgan
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06-09-2020, 06:05 PM #25Astonishing Member
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Fair, though for our purposes here he'd be fighting Trash Thor who is even trashier without the hammer. It certainly puts an asterisk on strongest Hulk ever though. Originally Posted by Pendaran
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06-09-2020, 06:09 PM #26Death of Time
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So, the helios laser is used to reduce Hulk almost to slag... Originally Posted by Captain Morgan
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And then, Screenshot_20200609-180431_Marvel Unlimited.jpg"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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06-09-2020, 06:14 PM #27Death of Time
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Sorry, forgot to crop my images Originally Posted by Captain Morgan
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By the time hes back at the lab, minus having been dissected by adamantium blade, hes regenerated...
20200609_181051.jpg"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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06-09-2020, 06:16 PM #28Death of Time
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Once hes free of his containment, we get this...
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Which ends in this...
20200609_181205.jpg"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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06-09-2020, 06:17 PM #29Death of Time
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Worthy Thor still has ranged attacks, flight, speed. I dont know that unworthy Thor fares as well.
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