X-World without Xavier or Magneto

[Huntsman Spider]

Who is Alan?

Alan2099, maybe? Beyond that, this is a pretty interesting debate. Say what you will about either of those two, but "canon-wise," it's been shown over and over through the magic of time travel and alternate realities that the X-World and the larger Marvel Universe would be worse off without them both. Without Xavier forming the X-Men, there's nothing to inspire mutants to dream of achieving something better. Without Magneto, at least the Magneto who's relatively sane and self-aware, there's nobody without the intimate understanding of oppression coupled with the willingness to fight against it on all levels and by all means. While those means can be utterly brutal, gruesome, and even morally hideous, that should always be balanced with the acknowledgement that institutionalized bigotry can be every bit as bad for a society and its people as one bloody-minded, extremely powerful terrorist.

[pkingdom]

That brings up a good point. Without Magneto or Xavier, you still have big players like Apocalypse, Selene, and Destiny and Mystique. An old guard that stands in the way of young blood like Storm and Emma. You would need a proper revolt, or imagine a world where none of the elder mutants make it to 21st century.

That's why I changed it to something like "remove everyone currently on the Quiet Council". Plus even in the original suggestion some good mutants like Wolverine would still be around. I'd take Selene out of that list of big bads personally, because she's too vain and petty to pull off something big and successful.

Like, here's a crackpot theory: some big bad or super disillusioned mutant finds out about the Moira thing, and in response triggers her power in a way that restarts time but removes Moira, and the entire Quiet Council, from history. They just don't show up or get born or something. Legion could pull something like that off. What's the world like?

[Steel Inquisitor]

Who is Alan?

The poster you were responding to.

[Michael Watkins]

The poster you were responding to.

I pretty much ignore any name that isn’t a real one. Keeps it from getting personal.