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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyinthesky View Post
    What do you mean? honestly curious.
    In our world, people want equal justice for all, no matter what the race.
    And, yet, in a comic, the pedigree seems to matter…
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    In our world, people want equal justice for all, no matter what the race.
    And, yet, in a comic, the pedigree seems to matter…
    I agree in our world people want equal justice for all yet sadly some people act like some people are better or less than others,maybe not on the law itself but on the little nuances that happen everyday, we as a world of course try to make it better for everyone but itīs a fact this type of things keep happening on a daily basis, ignoring them or pretend they donīt happen wonīt make them go away.

    The comic is a fictional world thatīs shaped by itīs creators and is interpreted by we as readers so while the writer may have the intention of developing a story towards one direction, we as readers may see that direction or see something else depending on our own perspective.

    In the case of Hickmanīs X-men I think what Hickman is trying to show is what are the X-men willing to do under duress to keep the peace between mutants and the peace between humans and mutants, especially after the decimation debacle. Thereīs a context behind the actions the X-men are taking, we may agree or disagree with them or we may even question if they are wrong or right for doing so but I think itīs wrong to take that context appart from the story and then judge the characters with our own real life experiences when the characters are reacting to a totally different context but one that reflects in some ways past and present experiences on our world.
    "To the X-men then, who donīt die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo

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    According to X-Fans, anyone can be forgiven unless your name is Wanda Maximoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    So did Mr. Sinister and they're cool with him now.
    Remember that Apocalypse transformed Essex before he got to stealing and hoarding mutant DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecrown View Post
    According to X-Fans, anyone can be forgiven unless your name is Wanda Maximoff.
    There are X-fans that like Wanda in fact I am one of them I think the problem is not Wanda herself but decimation and the way it was handled by marvel on the Avengers and X-men side. For example, on the Avengers side they put Wanda on limbo for 7 years until they brought her back without so much as a proper redemption arc or an explanation of what happened with her and on the X-men side decimation send some fan favorite characters to limbo and then the Messiah trilogy that was made to get the X-men back in control of their issues was used to prop up the Avengers and in a lesser way Wanda while making the X-men the villains on their own story.

    I think a proper character focused arc for Wanda that addresses those issues between her and HoM, life force, mutants,etc and the X-men moving away from the decimation era will do a world of good to all of them.
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    No she shouldn't be forgiven and neither should Wanda

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    Wanda doesn't care whether or not she's forgiven.
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    Mummudrai lives matter
    “Generally, one knows me before hating me” -Quicksilver

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    Mummudrai lives matter
    They should be worshipped for bringing Lady Mastermind to the X-Men! <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    Mummudrai lives matter
    Itīs better to be safe than sorry given Cassandra managed to make a mess of Genosha, The Shiar Empire and the X-men in just a few days without an ounce of regret, sheīs the one character who fits completeley with "they only want to see the world burn" pov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micabe View Post
    Remember that Apocalypse transformed Essex before he got to stealing and hoarding mutant DNA.
    Essex was a monster in human society before Apocalypse got to him.

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    If she does than we need to see Rachel do this again


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    is better to have her with them than agaisnt them.

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    I think Xavier should probably apologize for trying to murder his baby sister in the womb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Mr Sinister cloned a body with Thunderbirds gene making him a mutant. The other Sinisters don't have one. Cassandra Nova is one step above homo superior. She's the next stage in evolution. She's a shapeshifter that can copy powers by copying the x-gene. She could do the same with non-mutants theoretically

    Additionally, Sinister serves a purpose according to Moiras experiences
    Shouldn’t mutants be fairly pro-“the next stage in evolution”?

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