New Wonder Woman Villain: Liar Liar

[Nyssane]

Probably/Probably not, I don't know...I'm not concerned with what the general fandom commonly asks about male superheroes.
I am asking it of Wonder Woman.

It's just strange that you're asking that of the only major comic book series that features a predominantly female rogues gallery.

[SiegePerilous02]

Why does it have to be yet another female villain?
With the exception of Maxwell Lord and Ares does Wonder Woman have any powerful male villains in her Rogues Gallery?

She's got Dr. Psycho, who is thematically her more important male villain, and the likes of Angle Man, sometimes Hercules, and Ares's sons.
She really doesn't need any more. The appeal of the WW franchise is to use women in the majority of the important roles to counter how female characters are in the minority in every other major franchise. This means her rogues gallery should primarily consist of a variety of villainous women.

Not that she needs yet more new villains period right now. The stability of her rogues gallery is so shaky that adding more and more doesn't help or create incentive for another writer to keep the new ones around instead of making their own.

[Largo161]

Hmm... the new villainess’ unassuming design is a plus if you ask me. Doesn’t guarantee the story will be a winner, but sometimes less is more. Capes and armor and epaulets and insignias, etc., are a dime a dozen.

[Dr. Poison]

She's got Dr. Psycho, who is thematically her more important male villain, and the likes of Angle Man, sometimes Hercules, and Ares's sons.
She really doesn't need any more. The appeal of the WW franchise is to use women in the majority of the important roles to counter how female characters are in the minority in every other major franchise. This means her rogues gallery should primarily consist of a variety of villainous women.

Not that she needs yet more new villains period right now. The stability of her rogues gallery is so shaky that adding more and more doesn't help or create incentive for another writer to keep the new ones around instead of making their own.

Truth! Look at how many of Diana's new villains from the last 10 years that were one run and done wonders:


Abolith
Aegeus II(Finch version)
Baundo
Cassandra
Catseye
Dark Multiverse Gods
Dr. Poison III(Finch version)
First Born


Do we really need to add more bodies to this list of disposables?

[Devaishwarya]

She's got Dr. Psycho, who is thematically her more important male villain, and the likes of Angle Man, sometimes Hercules, and Ares's sons.
She really doesn't need any more. The appeal of the WW franchise is to use women in the majority of the important roles to counter how female characters are in the minority in every other major franchise. This means her rogues gallery should primarily consist of a variety of villainous women.

Not that she needs yet more new villains period right now. The stability of her rogues gallery is so shaky that adding more and more doesn't help or create incentive for another writer to keep the new ones around instead of making their own.

I can understand the necessity for more female villains but just because Wonder Woman is a woman does not mean they all have to appear in her book and...when they do, they're not written as very memorable...and yes, disposable. A lot of vengeance and anger issues but very little else. Even Circe and Cheetah have fallen into that trite characterisation from time to time.

If we have to have another female villain for WW, can she be at least on the level and scale of...Enchantress or Morgaine Le Fay, or even Perpetua. Someone who can be an actual challenge.

[Koriand'r]

I can understand the necessity for more female villains but just because Wonder Woman is a woman does not mean they all have to appear in her book and...when they do, they're not written as very memorable...and yes, disposable. A lot of vengeance and anger issues but very little else. Even Circe and Cheetah have fallen into that trite characterisation from time to time.

If we have to have another female villain for WW, can she be at least on the level and scale of...Enchantress or Morgaine Le Fay, or even Perpetua. Someone who can be an actual challenge.

Honestly I think we got some theoretically good ones with Grail and Warmaster. Although Grail hasn't lived up to her potential, that potential is still there. She's at least a formidable opponent and she and Warmaster both have great designs.

Hmm... the new villainess’ unassuming design is a plus if you ask me. Doesn’t guarantee the story will be a winner, but sometimes less is more. Capes and armor and epaulets and insignias, etc., are a dime a dozen.

I agree, it's a refreshing change from what we usually get. You can be understated and still make a statement.

[Devaishwarya]

Yes. I really liked Grail...but she really wasn't written to her true potential.

[scary harpy]

Maybe she's a modernization of Deception's daughter Lya. But yeah, Maxwell Lord AND a new villain? They really don't want me excited for this run, huh.

I hope so. I love it when a villain is modernized.

[warzon]

Soooo Jim Carey has a Daughter lol

[SonOfBaldwin]

I like the look and the concept. She seems like a villain that will really appeal to the current generation of readers, if the current generation even reads comics. If Batman can have Punchline, certainly Wonder Woman can have Liar Liar.

[PopQuezy]

I like the look and the concept. She seems like a villain that will really appeal to the current generation of readers, if the current generation even reads comics. If Batman can have Punchline, certainly Wonder Woman can have Liar Liar.

But Punchline looks cool.

[SonOfBaldwin]

But Punchline looks cool.

And I think Liar Liar looks cool, too. I understand that others may not feel the same way.

[Shadowcat]

Is this a common question fans ask about male superheroes with male villains?

The more powerful women added to the mythology, and medium, the better.

[Vordan]

I'm here for the duration. How bad could it be? Well yeah, very, but I've sat through horrible runs before.

Besides I like Liar Liar's name, design and the energy snakes look cool, but it's safe to say my pants aren't on fire.

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Hm that design looks kinda plain. Guessing she’s Max’s daughter?

[WonderScott]

I’m still wait and she about her, but she’s also giving me a slightly sinister Where’s Waldo vibe.