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    Default Historically Bad Calls by Industry Awards (Oscars, Grammys, etc)

    Pia Zadora won "Best Female Newcomer" at the Golden Globes for her role in the Golden Raspberry ridiculed "Butterfly", over Elizabeth McGovern and Kathleen Turner.


    "Talk to the Animals" from Dr. Doolittle beat out "The Look of Love" from Casino Royale for best song at the Oscars. Unchained Melody was nominated for the 1955 movie "Unchained" but lost out to "Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing". The winning songs are largely forgotten, while the losing songs became classics and have been covered over and over.

    La La Land was a weak-ass movie about a boring white guy saving jazz music, probably every other movie nominated that year would have been a better choice.

    Any other ones?
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    Missed one of the biggies...

    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/meta...y-jethro-tull/

    When Metallica Somehow Lost a Metal Grammy to Jethro Tull
    Cooper and Ford weren’t the only ones to assume Tull’s presence on the list was some kind of joke. In fact, during rehearsal earlier that day, the placeholder winner’s envelope contained a card with the prog-rock band’s name on it, making it seem almost certain they wouldn’t win. How could they? Surely it was between media favorites Jane’s Addiction and scene darlings Metallica.

    “I opened the envelope, and when I saw the name, I thought they’d given me the envelope from the rehearsal,” Cooper told Classic Rock in 2016. “Everybody in that room was certain that Metallica would get the Grammy," he added. "I looked at it again, and it did have a different seal on it and details like that. It was the real thing. So I said, ‘For the Best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Grammy … Jethro Tull!’ There was a two-minute pause, then everybody broke out laughing. They thought I was doing a joke.”

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    Well, that flute is made of metal.
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    One other thing about that Pia Zadora win.

    She didn't just beat out Kathleen Turner. Unless I'm recalling it all wrong, it's Kathleen Turner nominated for her role in the film Body Heat.

    Just a really wild call.

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    Never mind that Mickey Rourke also probably could have been nominated for that film(even though it is a much smaller part...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    One other thing about that Pia Zadora win.

    She didn't just beat out Kathleen Turner. Unless I'm recalling it all wrong, it's Kathleen Turner nominated for her role in the film Body Heat.

    Just a really wild call.
    Considering "Butterfly" was only made because her husband was really, really rich and wanted his wife to be a movie star, maybe he bought some votes for her, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    La La Land was a weak-ass movie about a boring white guy saving jazz music, probably every other movie nominated that year would have been a better choice.
    Which is why Moonlight won in one of the more memorable Oscar moments in history.

    youtube.com/watch?v=GCQn_FkFElI

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    Marisa Tomei getting an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny is still perplexing. Besides, she's been a better supporting actress in movies like The Wrestler, just for one. Chaplin, Untamed Heart, Lincoln Lawyer...


    I mean, the knock on the Oscars has always been that they give out "the make-up Oscar", where they give an older actor an Oscar for a role late in the career as an apology of sorts for missing when they didn't win at a time when they deserved to. And meanwhile, they slight someone else more deserving who's younger, only to give them a "make-up Oscar" for letting the veteran take one over them earlier.

    Case in point, Cecil B. DeMille didn't win for "The Ten Commandments" and lost to "Around the World in 80 Days" so somehow years later, "The Greatest Show on Earth" won.

    Also, I have no idea who Harvey Weinstein must have threatened to kill (a lot of people, I'd wager) to get "Shakespeare in Love" to win over "Saving Private Ryan". I like the former, but it can't hold a candle to the latter. The Normandy scene ALONE, for goodness sake.
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    For the Oscars... a lot comes down to personal taste, and sometimes story does matter. I personally think Sissy Spacek was better than Halle Berry that year, but Sissy had already won AND no black actress had ever won Best Actress in it's history. So I get in some cases it's not just about 'performance vs. performance'; which is understandable. A lot comes down to opinion too, there are decisions I disagree with, but that doesn't make them "WTF" moments. They were good enough to nominate, for example.

    The few I can think of:
    - Crash winning over Brokeback Mountain is the ultimate 'bad call'.
    - Melissa Leo winning for the Fighter (in general) is a bizarre choice; I don't remember her in it (Amy Adams was much better and in it much more). But add in she won over Helena Bonham-Carter for the King's Speech, that I cannot understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    La La Land was a weak-ass movie about a boring white guy saving jazz music
    It... wasn't about the guy??? It was about Emma Stone. Though I do agree, his character was not very good.

    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Also, I have no idea who Harvey Weinstein must have threatened to kill (a lot of people, I'd wager) to get "Shakespeare in Love" to win over "Saving Private Ryan". I like the former, but it can't hold a candle to the latter. The Normandy scene ALONE, for goodness sake.
    See, I understand that one. Not only do I enjoy Shakespeare in Love much more, but I get for an entertainment industry, it just connects with them so much more.
    "We are Shakespeare. We are Michelangelo. We are Tchaikovsky. We are Turing. We are Mercury. We are Wilde. We are Lincoln, Lorca, Leonardo da Vinci. We are Alexander the Great. We are Fredrick the Great. We are Rustin. We are Addams. We are Marsha! Marsha Marsha Marsha! We so generous, we DeGeneres. We are Ziggy Stardust hooked to the silver screen. Controversially we are Malcolm X. We are Plato. We are Aristotle. We are RuPaul, god dammit! And yes, we are Woolf."

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    In the early 90’s the academy changed the rules in order to make it more difficult for animated movies to win best picture. This had a dramatic effect on the history of the oscars to me, because I feel their was many a year in the late 90’s and 2000’s where the best picture should have went to an animated film(Pixar).

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    "The Greatest Show on Earth" Best Picture Oscar. Full stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    "The Greatest Show on Earth" Best Picture Oscar. Full stop.
    It was the same year as High Noon, and Singing in the Rain (which wasn't nominated)
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Miller View Post
    Which is why Moonlight won in one of the more memorable Oscar moments in history.

    youtube.com/watch?v=GCQn_FkFElI
    Oh right, that was fake news.

    Which one was it that beat out Black Panther again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post



    It... wasn't about the guy??? It was about Emma Stone. Though I do agree, his character was not very good.

    Different strokes. She was the better actress, but I do not remember her story at all. I just remember sitting there being angry at the guy, angry at the movie and angry at my popcorn.
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    One of my favorite moments in music history was when Aretha Franklin, winner of the best R&B album grammy for "Young Gifted and Black" got up for her speech, disagreed with the decision and passed the Grammy on to Esther Philips for "From a Whisper to a Scream."
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