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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    I guess so lol, but that's another weird bit of trivia that can be lifted right out and not miss out on anything. The Robin identity was created for Dick first and foremost, Bruce having it for a bit when he was a kid and then it being retconned out/barely being mentioned afterward shows that we shouldn't put much stock in it.

    Clark being Nightwing and Dick taking on a mantle inspired by it holds more weight.
    Agreed, but I don't really consider Dick a legacy of Clark, either. I go with the usual definition of the word within our hobby and ignore the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Agreed, but I don't really consider Dick a legacy of Clark, either. I go with the usual definition of the word within our hobby and ignore the rest.
    I mean yeah, I don't either, but I've seen the argument come up.

    For me, Nightgwing was just a fun side thing Clark did and wasn't the identity he was known for, so Dick made it his own to the point where it's original connection has been lost (which is very unfortunate IMO, I think it was most of the appeal for me as an identity for him to mix homages for his two heroes. Now it just comes across as a generic Gotham vigilante ID).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    I mean yeah, I don't either, but I've seen the argument come up.

    For me, Nightgwing was just a fun side thing Clark did and wasn't the identity he was known for, so Dick made it his own to the point where it's original connection has been lost (which is very unfortunate IMO, I think it was most of the appeal for me as an identity for him to mix homages for his two heroes. Now it just comes across as a generic Gotham vigilante ID).
    Excellent point, SiegePerilous02. I felt the same way, too.
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    It depends on the character and the story unfolds

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    If Barry weren't at the forefront among the speedsters at the moment, that might be an option for him (as well as the others, come to think of it).
    Well he was dead for what 25 years? I think it could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Well he was dead for what 25 years? I think it could work.
    Barry was dead for a while, but then he got better.

    And DC has since been focusing more on Barry as The Flash (including a TV series), so it would be silly for them to try and change the focus on what they refer to Barry as.
    Wally, on the other hand, would have been a perfect candidate for renaming to get him back into the spotlight prior to the recent changes as a result of Infinite Frontier, but DC came up with that different solution for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Well he was dead for what 25 years? I think it could work.
    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Barry was dead for a while, but then he got better.

    And DC has since been focusing more on Barry as The Flash (including a TV series), so it would be silly for them to try and change the focus on what they refer to Barry as.
    Wally, on the other hand, would have been a perfect candidate for renaming to get him back into the spotlight prior to the recent changes as a result of Infinite Frontier, but DC came up with that different solution for now.
    Yeah, Barry is going to be around a long, long time. He may not be as iconic as the Trinity (and almost certainly never will), but he's a lot closer to that than back in '85 when the name Barry Allen had no currency with the average American.
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    Maybe but even in his tv show he’s had different names, as has Green Arrow. Any one of them could work nicely. From “The Streak” to “The Blur”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Maybe but even in his tv show he’s had different names, as has Green Arrow. Any one of them could work nicely. From “The Streak” to “The Blur”.
    But The Flash works best for Barry.

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    I’m just more partial to The Scarlet Speedster tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    I’m just more partial to The Scarlet Speedster tbh
    How about The Crimson Comet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Maybe but even in his tv show he’s had different names, as has Green Arrow. Any one of them could work nicely. From “The Streak” to “The Blur”.
    At this point, those and other codenames may be options for other speedsters, but not Barry. For mainstream America, he's the numero uno Flash. I know that stinks if you're fans of another one, but I don't know what else to say. Maybe thirty years down the road, things might change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    How about The Crimson Comet?
    Good. Reminds me of the public domain hero.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarknightDetective
    At this point, those and other codenames may be options for other speedsters, but not Barry.
    Even if some of them he's already using? We just disagree on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Even if some of them he's already using? We just disagree on this.
    What is the speed codename that resonates the most with people? The Flash! Who is currently at the forefront? Barry!

    Now if someone else was at the forefront as the Flash, would his or her fans be talking about changing his/her name? Nope. Wouldn't blame them, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Good. Reminds me of the public domain hero.
    Guess you don't watch a lot of CW Flash - it was Jay's nickname on his Earth like how Barry gets called the Scarlet Speedster.

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