Graduation day for Sidekicks

[9th.]

Does Powergirl aka Tanya Spears count?

[lemonpeace]

Does Powergirl aka Tanya Spears count?

I'd say so, Defiance were largely just Slade's sidekicks in function tbh.

[randomideaguy]

Duke I would like to see as a private detective or social worker. Kinda taking some of Leslie Thompson’s role as “trusted adult” to the street kids of Gotham.

Cass would be Batman, obv. With Steph as her Robin or Batwoman.

Damian my preferred outcome would be a veterinarian, little to no super-ing.

Dick needs to lead the Justice League again.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

That's Marvel. And of course, Trish is actually Patsy Walker, aka Hellcat (they tried to modernise what Patricia is shortened to).

Anyway, Cissie's already established as being an Olympic athlete.

i meant she grew up to be a radio show host that dabbles in activism. Sorry i didn't explain myself well.

So new additions-
Cassie grows up to be a Lara Croft wannabe working for an organization protecting the "Wonders" of the DCU.

Duke became a journalist for an independent media outlet.

[CellarDweller]

I would be interested in seeing more story lines for Zan & Jayna along Filo and Poly Math.

At the beginning of their maxi-series, they were interns at the Hall of Justice, going on on occasional missions with the heroes. At the end of the series, they were running Astrisk with the Maths, I'd like to see that expanded on. Having them graduate to something more important, or even an explanation of moving on from interns to running Astrisk and their official duties there would be good.

at the end of the most recent issue of Young Justice, Zan says he can make it "official" for Young Justice being officially sanctioned as a youth organization of the Justice League. I'd like to see some further examination of this.

[Masterff]

They got to stop thinking so linear. Thats part of why Tim's gen has struggled. To do what those before them did is not doing what those before them did. These next generations need to start graduating in different ways instead of just becoming the next Bat person or Aqua person. Lets look at Cassandra Cain for example. Why even waste time trying to come up with a superhero persona when superhero personas matter very little in context to that character. Dressing up as a superhero is how Batman understands the world, and so making her Batgirl was how he thought to help her. But its not like she grew up wanting to Batgirl or even aware of superheros. Just have her be Cassandra Cain, Kung Fu badass like Richard Dragon. And for some of the others do nothing. Not every sidekick needs to go beyond being a sidekick.

Not really....
I LOVED!!! Graduation Day and especially TT.
It was a great TT Run and I LOVED how Conner,Cassie,Tim,Bart have developed during it.

Tims Generation had other problems:
-Cassie,Conner...not taking over a new Code-Name like Dick did as he became Nightwing

-They never had a 5.+6. member who stays with them for long time..

-Tims Generation had some cool and interesting characters (Blue Beetle,Static,Bombshell,Empress,Miss Martian,Secret,Traci13,Ravers,Bloodpack...) but they werent used as much...

-Tims Generation often get the "weakest" member of the Families:
Arrow Family: Mia Dearden or Arrowette
Aqua-Family: Lorena

Based on the current run of YJ I dont like the storylines,dont like the line-up and the direction of the series.

Tims Generation would just work better as OUTSIDERS with Traci13,Bombshell,Empress,Miss Martian,Jessica Cruz,.....instead of being YJ again with many new members.



As Graduation I personally see Tim taking over Wayne Enterprises and taking Bart,Conner and Cassie with him, with Conner as Vice-President of Wayne Enterprises..
Justice League split in two teams:

Tim,Conner,Cassie,Bart,....as one Team (Justice League Prime or so) with their own Code-Names

Damian,Jon....as other Team (Justice League Beta or so)....

[Flash Gordon]

Not all "side kicks" or associates need to graduate. Some just are a supporting character by design.

[Robanker]

Wallace takes on the name "Defiance" and rocks the white and black look from his time with Deathstroke. His civilian job is being a social worker for at risk youth.

Bart just stays Impulse and spends him getting into adventures. He's sorta becomes likes the 11th doctor from Doctor Who. I imagine that he would be a childish adult so thats part of his USP.

I like Superlad93's Agent KR pitch so I'd just expand on that. Connor works for Cadmus as a security agent. His adult self would be a troubleshooter for that town of Cadmus Clones seen in Young Justice.

Tim Drake picks up a new ID- Sandman, Dr.Midnite, The Question or The Crimson Avenger.

Steph spends some time with the Amazons and picks up some new moves. She works as a freelance bounty hunter/investigator.

Cissie grew up to be season 1 Trish from Jessica Jones (Netflix).

Connor Hawke becomes the leader of the Fist clan.

Tim being the new Sandman and launching a new volume of Sandman Mystery Theatre was something I never knew I wanted.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Not all "side kicks" or associates need to graduate. Some just are a supporting character by design.

I get that but sometimes fans see potential where others don't.

Tim being the new Sandman and launching a new volume of Sandman Mystery Theatre was something I never knew I wanted.

Because its an alternate future, how he becomes Sandman could be a mystery in itself .

[lemonpeace]

Not all "side kicks" or associates need to graduate. Some just are a supporting character by design.

like Dick Grayson? or Jason Todd? or Wally West? no one is asking about which characters were "designed" to be supplementary to a different character.

this thread isn't "which book is more likely to sell?" or "which character was made with graduation in mind?", although Duke's inclusion on the list is exemplary of a character the creator intended to graduate. now this part isn't aimed specifically for you, it's more of a general thing, but if you have no ideas just say you have no ideas you guys, or passively skim the thread or skip it entirely. I'm not interested in debating the premise nor is the premise meant to be debated. there are however many "junior justice league" type young heroes that have not or will not mature over time, the main thing young people usually do; let's focus on that.

[Fergus]

Not really....
I LOVED!!! Graduation Day and especially TT.
It was a great TT Run and I LOVED how Conner,Cassie,Tim,Bart have developed during it.

Tims Generation had other problems:
-Cassie,Conner...not taking over a new Code-Name like Dick did as he became Nightwing

-They never had a 5.+6. member who stays with them for long time..

-Tims Generation had some cool and interesting characters (Blue Beetle,Static,Bombshell,Empress,Miss Martian,Secret,Traci13,Ravers,Bloodpack...) but they werent used as much...

-Tims Generation often get the "weakest" member of the Families:
Arrow Family: Mia Dearden or Arrowette
Aqua-Family: Lorena

Based on the current run of YJ I dont like the storylines,dont like the line-up and the direction of the series.

Tims Generation would just work better as OUTSIDERS with Traci13,Bombshell,Empress,Miss Martian,Jessica Cruz,.....instead of being YJ again with many new members.



As Graduation I personally see Tim taking over Wayne Enterprises and taking Bart,Conner and Cassie with him, with Conner as Vice-President of Wayne Enterprises..
Justice League split in two teams:

Tim,Conner,Cassie,Bart,....as one Team (Justice League Prime or so) with their own Code-Names

Damian,Jon....as other Team (Justice League Beta or so)....

Why in the world would Tim and Conner take over Wayne Enterprises? That's so random.

Neither has shown any indication that they know anything about corporate affairs or how to run an organisation the scale of WE.

[Fergus]

I got a few ideas for some of them

Teen Lantern- she is not an official green lantern, in fact her gauntlet is currently a mix of earth prime and earth 3 technology. My thought for her is that she doesn’t go to the lantern corps as they would likely take the gauntlet away, she goes to Alan Scott for training. Under his tutelage she will become a better hero outside the scope of the corps.

Wallace West-embraces his silver new 52 look and decides to embrace the place the person the universe created him to be a Flash. With this he decides to do something for his cousins that other speedsters have done in the past, he trains Iris West to be the next kid flash/impulse.

Duke Thomas- Decides that the best way to be something new was to use Batman’s tactics in the light, with his new found Shadow powers Duke can summon the darkness in the bright of day to put the fear of the bat into criminals.

Jackson Hyde- In a way he ends up following his fathers footsteps, seeing the danger that persists with N.E.M.O. who are controlled by Black Manta Jackson dethrones his father and decides to reform N.E.M.O. as a public entity to use it resources to the benefit of Atlantis and Aquaman. Hail the benevolent Fisher King, Jackson Hyde!

These are some great ideas. I like them all.

Agree with the poster who suggested Damian working with Animals. I'd have him start a more radical version of Peta. Still doing hero work but focusing on taking down baddies or companies that hurt or endanger animals.

Not a fan of Duke working with street kids. That strikes me as a stereotype.

[Masterff]

Why in the world would Tim and Conner take over Wayne Enterprises? That's so random.

Neither has shown any indication that they know anything about corporate affairs or how to run an organisation the scale of WE.

Read "BATMAN REBORN"!!!!!!! [RED ROBIN#12]

In Batman Reborn Tim Drake activated a contingency plan (MADE BY BRUCE!!!) which gave the controlling interest to TIM DRAKE:

So during Batman Reborn, TIM DRAKE was in control of WAYNE ENTERPRISES!!!!!!!
So he knows DEFINETELY how to run Wayne Enterprises, because he did it already.

I base this on TITANS OF TOMORROW I see CONNER becoming SUPERMAN,CASSIE as WONDER GIRL,TIM as RED ROBIN,BART as FLASH, IRIS WEST as QUEEN FLASH......
I see Tim as BOSS of WE and Conner in charge of wellfare programs, charity programs etc. both extremely rich and also Bart rich, Cassie as Conners wife.

So Conner,Cassie,Bart,..... can spend their life also basically working almost 24/7 working as Superheroes.

These are some great ideas. I like them all.

Agree with the poster who suggested Damian working with Animals. I'd have him start a more radical version of Peta. Still doing hero work but focusing on taking down baddies or companies that hurt or endanger animals.

Not a fan of Duke working with street kids. That strikes me as a stereotype.

Why should Wallace train Iris?

Bart was Impulse/Kid Flash/The fastest Flash of ALL TIMES, member of JL AND he has a BETTER relationship with Wally and Iris West II than Wallace.

Makes NO SENSE!!!

[Digifiend]

Why in the world would Tim and Conner take over Wayne Enterprises? That's so random.

Neither has shown any indication that they know anything about corporate affairs or how to run an organisation the scale of WE.

Tim has, in fact, taken over WE before, when Bruce was believed to be dead and Dick was Batman. Lucius Fox was the one who made him CEO, but in reality, it was Lucius running everything. Tim was just a figurehead, put there to stop Hush.

Ra's ultimate plan became clearer, as the villain tried to use Hush to transfer control of the Wayne Enterprises to Ra's in Bruce's absence. Lucius Fox, thinking quickly, subverted the operation and had Tim appointed CEO of Wayne Enterprises to block the power play. Ra's was outraged, though he developed a massive amount of respect for Tim - even calling him "detective" like he had once called Bruce and suggesting he wanted Tim to sire his heir.

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Timothy_Drake_(New_Earth)

[sifighter]

Read "BATMAN REBORN"!!!!!!! [RED ROBIN#12]

In Batman Reborn Tim Drake activated a contingency plan (MADE BY BRUCE!!!) which gave the controlling interest to TIM DRAKE:

So during Batman Reborn, TIM DRAKE was in control of WAYNE ENTERPRISES!!!!!!!
So he knows DEFINETELY how to run Wayne Enterprises, because he did it already.

I base this on TITANS OF TOMORROW I see CONNER becoming SUPERMAN,CASSIE as WONDER GIRL,TIM as RED ROBIN,BART as FLASH, IRIS WEST as QUEEN FLASH......
I see Tim as BOSS of WE and Conner in charge of wellfare programs, charity programs etc. both extremely rich and also Bart rich, Cassie as Conners wife.

So Conner,Cassie,Bart,..... can spend their life also basically working almost 24/7 working as Superheroes.



Why should Wallace train Iris?

Bart was Impulse/Kid Flash/The fastest Flash of ALL TIMES, member of JL AND he has a BETTER relationship with Wally and Iris West II than Wallace.

Makes NO SENSE!!!

I mean sure it could totally be Bart, I just picked Wallace because he would be her first cousin once removed (Cousin to Wally) and I assumed family would want to help out family.