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    Default Was Armageddon 2001 Really That Bad?

    Most of the criticisms leved against it relate to the identity of Monarch being changed last minute. I've never read the crossover the whole way through, but what I have read has been stellar.

    Amarageddon 2001 Special 1 I felt was not just a great superhero story, but a great dystopian narrative and time travel story as well.

    Justice League America Annual 5 is probably the best tie in issue for a comic I have ever read. It's a perfect swan song for the Justice League International team.

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    I only read the parts that brought JSA back.

    However, I can say with some confidence that I hate ANY kind of mystery where the clues don't actually point to the villain. Add Identity Crisis to the mix. If they wrote 3 issues and changed the ending to 4... I don't see any way it COULD have been good.

    But it brought my JSA back

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    I only read the parts that brought JSA back.

    However, I can say with some confidence that I hate ANY kind of mystery where the clues don't actually point to the villain. Add Identity Crisis to the mix. If they wrote 3 issues and changed the ending to 4... I don't see any way it COULD have been good.

    But it brought my JSA back
    that was an entire different mini series , that was armageddon inferno, not armageddon 2001. inferno only has waverider but that mini had a host of famous artists doing bits in its 4 part mini - walt simonson , art adams , tom mandrake doing his first spectre before the ostrander spectre series , the underrated michael netzer etc.




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    Good catch! So yeah... i never heard anything good about Armeggedon 2001 :P

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    maybe not for the main story but as i said , some of those annuals were pretty good.




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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal88 View Post
    maybe not for the main story but as i said , some of those annuals were pretty good.



    This is all I've read of it. The Superman spinoffs. Most of them were pretty good. I liked the Maxima one. That one works even without the connection.
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    some of those what-if svenarios for the annual crossovr were good, the main story though were just average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal88 View Post
    some of those what-if svenarios for the annual crossovr were good, the main story though were just average.
    I agree. They were enjoyable Tales Of What Might Come To Pass. The quality varied from title to title. Unfortunately, the central title was one of the weaker ones, even before the plot-twist course-correct they had to bolt onto it in hour eleven.

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    Armageddon 2001 was *this close* to being one of the better summer crossovers that DC ever put out.

    It had a solid premise, the annuals were, more often than not, good silly fun, and throughout the whole event, there was a tantalizing promise that a DC character was going to break bad in the future.

    And then, because they panicked over people having figured out the ending (an ending which would have made dramatic sense), they blew it up in the most nonsensical way possible, creating a ball of continuity nonsense that has never been properly resolved.

    So yeah, hero to zero, just like that.

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    I never liked Monarch's design.

    Something about it just makes it look too clunky, and outside of that, nothing about it really stands out. It's just generic looking armor.

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    One thing I was always interested in is, Who Built Monarch's Armor?

    I mean, it's obviously very powerful, and is somehow able to convert Hawk's Chaos Energy into devastating energy blasts and flight and whatnot.

    But there was probably a moment somewhere in the 1990's when Monarch/Hawk went to a mad scientist and had this conversation:
    Hawk: See this armor I'm wearing? I need you to make and exact, brand-new duplicate of it.
    Scientist: Why?
    Hawk: 'Cause I took it off the corpse of my future self a year or so ago, and if I'm not wearing a newer one when I eventually kill myself, the armor will be ten years older than it should be when I get killed in the future.
    Scientist: Why not just avoid getting killed by you past self?
    Hawk: Then I won't have this bitchin' armor that'll allow me to take over the world.
    Scientist: This armor is really advanced. Who designed it in the first place.
    Hawk: I have no idea.

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    It's like reading What If series but using dc characters. It was okay for me but I don't think it was really worthy to be published as an event
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