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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I believe when Wolverine’s Weapon X program history was retcon into the Weapon “Ten” Program, it said Luke Cage and Warhawk’s experiments was one of the different numbered programs.
    Huh, that makes sense, I guess. It's neat to tie all the various super-soldier stuff together, however loosely, and suggest that, even if one had nothing to do with the other, the research from one led to developments in another, or some background researcher worked on both, etc.

    Tie in the super-soldier serum, Green Goblin's research on a strength-enhancing formula, the Power Broker's research, that Soviet-era research that made super-big pilots for the Titanium Man armors, etc. maybe connect them to various other scientists, in various ways, like find out that some of the initial Power Broker research came from thought experiments from when Reed (or von Doom!) was in college, and now they are kind of put-out about it 'getting out' and being used that way, or old notes found abandoned from previous work by the High Evolutionary (back when he was just 'Herbert'), or the three scientists who made up 'the Enclave.'

    Marvel history is just rich as hell. So much to plunder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    Huh, that makes sense, I guess. It's neat to tie all the various super-soldier stuff together, however loosely, and suggest that, even if one had nothing to do with the other, the research from one led to developments in another, or some background researcher worked on both, etc.

    Tie in the super-soldier serum, Green Goblin's research on a strength-enhancing formula, the Power Broker's research, that Soviet-era research that made super-big pilots for the Titanium Man armors, etc. maybe connect them to various other scientists, in various ways, like find out that some of the initial Power Broker research came from thought experiments from when Reed (or von Doom!) was in college, and now they are kind of put-out about it 'getting out' and being used that way, or old notes found abandoned from previous work by the High Evolutionary (back when he was just 'Herbert'), or the three scientists who made up 'the Enclave.'

    Marvel history is just rich as hell. So much to plunder!
    Indeed, and if you check out Mark Millar's Marvel Knights Spider-Man #1-12, you can explicitly tie Norman Osborn's research on what would become known as the "goblin formula" to a long-term program by corrupt businesspeople and government officials to create enhanced human operatives that would prevent the then-nascent superhero population from using their abilities to meaningfully change the status quo by keeping them distracted with more "immediate" threats and dangers to the public. Come to think of it, that whole project could even be thought of as a corporatized offshoot of the militarization and weaponization of superpowers and superhumans being carried out by Weapon Plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Indeed, and if you check out Mark Millar's Marvel Knights Spider-Man #1-12, you can explicitly tie Norman Osborn's research on what would become known as the "goblin formula" to a long-term program by corrupt businesspeople and government officials to create enhanced human operatives that would prevent the then-nascent superhero population from using their abilities to meaningfully change the status quo by keeping them distracted with more "immediate" threats and dangers to the public. Come to think of it, that whole project could even be thought of as a corporatized offshoot of the militarization and weaponization of superpowers and superhumans being carried out by Weapon Plus.
    The Conspiracy miniseries from 1998 also supports this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    The Conspiracy miniseries from 1998 also supports this.
    Hmm, I've heard of that one. I think I'll have to check it out.
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    Does Wasp have an evil counterpart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    I don't think The Thing, the Human Torch or the Invisible Woman have evil counterparts
    I would argue Super Skrull counts.
    Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Does Wasp have an evil counterpart?
    Rita DeMara?

    Kinda / sorta, although she's was 'evil' for about a hot second... Wasp was her first foe, IIRC, when she stole the Yellowjacket suit, engaged the shrinking powers, and had her freakout. Shortest 'super-villain' fight that didn't involve Scourge.

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