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    Default Who's never died in the 616?

    I'm curious as to who hasn't. Polaris is the only one I know for sure has never died in the 616. I'd assume Wolverine and X-23 never have based on their power set but I know I could be very wrong about that.
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    I mean technically everyone who wasn't on a life raft died during the last Secret Wars

    Except maybe America Chavez I guess

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    Hmmm perhaps Secret Wars is best to be ignored for this question since almost everyone died.

    I don't believe Iceman has ever died, has he?

    EDIT: Actually, I don't think Beast has died either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post
    I don't believe Iceman has ever died, has he?
    Died? Hell, he was erased from existence in his first mini-series. Basically, Bobby traveled back in time which resulted in his father dying before he was ever conceived. This rewrote time, erasing Iceman from existence(this also predates the movie Back to the Future by about a year). He ended up in a death-realm called the Outer Void ruled over by the cosmic abstract Oblivion. Oblivion is a sibling to Death, Eternity and Infinity. The Iceman mini was actually his introduction to the Marvel Universe. Ultimately, Oblivion rewrote time to restore Iceman to existence and made Iceman think the whole thing was nothing but a dream.

    Yeah, no one has ever been able to fully explain the why of all that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Beast and Iceman were both victims of Thanos's snap in Infinity gauntlet. So were Archangel, Jean Grey, Firestar, Quicksilver and Northstar.
    Beat me to it.

    Technically, he also 'died' briefly when the power core overloaded at the mansion and he was caught in it's energy in Uncanny X-Men #311. He wasn't breathing and Hank had to do CPR to revive him. That's when Emma took over. Bobby's body ended up in a coma while his body relearned how his powers worked. When he emerged from the coma Emma Frost had full control and infamously unleashed his powers to a degree never before seen. Fun fact, Emma had hidden her consciousness inside someone off-panel in Uncanny X-Men #281 to avoid being killed by Sentinels. Both her students the Hellions and the X-Men initially thought she was dead, but after Jean transferred her mind into Emma's vacant body, Xavier suspected Emma may have done the same and kept her body alive in stasis. No one knew where Emma's mind was until the reveal in Uncanny X-Men #314.

    Because he was checking on Emma's body when the core overload happened, a lot of fans think that was the moment Emma transferred her mind into Bobby's body, when actually that was just a bit of foreshadowing of Emma's involvement in the upcoming story. Her consciousness was actually trapped in Iceman's mind for 33 issues of Uncanny X-Men, and it took him briefly 'dying' to set her free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salarta View Post
    I'm curious as to who hasn't. Polaris is the only one I know for sure has never died in the 616. I'd assume Wolverine and X-23 never have based on their power set but I know I could be very wrong about that.
    Polaris "died" in X-Factor 120, Magneto 21 and X-Men Blue 16, too in Uncanny X-Men 10 but no (age of x-man)

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post
    Polaris "died" in X-Factor 120, Magneto 21 and X-Men Blue 16, too in Uncanny X-Men 10 but no (age of x-man)
    Thanks, X-Factor #120 is one of those cases where I don't know much about it and kinda just shrug over that period. I skimmed it and I noticed she's using a gun for some reason, so on a personal level I'm gonna treat it as a time when Lorna's powers weren't working properly. It does fit the original question of the thread though.

    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Wolverine died, it was a big storyline called death of wolverine.
    I remember that storyline existed but I never read it, so I assumed he "died" as in he's in a state that won't let him reconstitute himself.
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    Storm aint never been dead because of obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    Storm aint never been dead because of obvious reasons.
    She technically died when Forge cast that spell to close the door to get rid of The Adversary during the Fall of the Mutants storyline. They were brought back by Roma though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    Storm aint never been dead because of obvious reasons.
    And she and Maddy, Rogue, Dazzler, Psylocke, Havok, Wolverine, Lonshot and Colossus all died during Fall of the Mutants
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    Emma also died in the Matthew Malloy storyline alongside a bajillion of other X-Men

    edit: oops I'm late again
    Last edited by nandes; 07-01-2020 at 04:58 AM.

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    Wolverine died, it was a big storyline called death of wolverine.

    I guess Monet never died, the 3 cuckos that didn't died...

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    Monet Died in X-Factor Peter Davis and Jonatahn Hickman House of x miniserie

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Wolverine died, it was a big storyline called death of wolverine.

    I guess Monet never died, the 3 cuckos that didn't died...
    Monet died in House of X but other than that I think she had a few death moments in earlier books ( either "died" or near death). Someone correct me but I think maybe in X-factor (X-factor 255 maybe?) and maybe a story in the all female X-men book (again I'm not sure about this one .. I could totally be wrong).

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    Beast and Iceman are the most senior X-men that never died.

    Of the ANAD X-Men, Sunfire got his legs chopped off and kidnapped by apocalypse but don’t think he ever died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Beast and Iceman are the most senior X-men that never died.

    Of the ANAD X-Men, Sunfire got his legs chopped off and kidnapped by apocalypse but don’t think he ever died.
    Beast and Iceman were both victims of Thanos's snap in Infinity gauntlet. So were Archangel, Jean Grey, Firestar, Quicksilver and Northstar.

    This was when the original line-up of X-men were still X-factor. Also, Captain America tried contacting the X-men and Excalibur but there was no response so we don't know what happened with them, except for Wolverine who Dr. Strange was able to find and recruit.

    Storm aint never been dead because of obvious reasons.
    Storm was killed along all the other heroes in the original Secret Wars.
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