"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
He was.
If nothing else, the same writer wrote Superman racing the Flash around the world on foot at "several times" the speed of sound.
There's other, better stuff, just this helps drive in the point of the writer (like most writers) typically tending to ignore (the extent of) superspeed as and when required
Personally I like Jurgens. I get the complaint, but his stuff is enjoyable to me. =)
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Also, I think the Hunter/Prey Doomsday is probably the single strongest version of the character if we take everything from DoS to his death in OWAW as one single character
The guy massacred Darkseid, Orion, MMH, Diana and Clark himself mostly just bounced off him in this period
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
Not by feats
It's like that Jay Garrick thing in the other thread. Just because the thing happened in a previous continuity doesnt mean it is equally applicable in the current continuity on the same terms
And the Doomsday that killed Clark was explicitly upgraded by Hunter Prey into something more powerful. Clark was also explicitly powered up after his death such that he himself notes the change in strength and speed in subsequent comics. Just like Jay explicitly grew older and struggled to reach his former speeds (aside from the whole thing where the older event happened in literally another universe Earth 2 that got merged consequently with post-crisis earth wherein the JSA became a part of post crisis earth 1 continuity, preceeding the JLA, which they had never been earlier)
Or to put it simply, the HP/DD wars/OWAW Doomsday was ragdolling people who could move moons and the new version was not getting scratched by someone struggling to reach the inner core.
Ok so Superman's big feat at the time of failing to scratch DD was trying and failing to reach the inner core.
https://m.imgur.com/a/kXCLZZi
Post crisis Superman
https://i.postimg.cc/63fr8vzK/image.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/wMxhLjbm/image.jpg
I mean his clone punched his body clean through the earth and dude came out smiling although tbf that's Bizarros default state. Even so clearly didnt take damage
https://m.imgur.com/gQ3GegS
Which makes sense as it was a weakened post crisis superman when he faced Doomsday in the new continuity
Last edited by The Dork Knight; 07-04-2020 at 03:46 AM.