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    Default DCAMU continuity? Bored at 3:00am?

    Waiting for Bored at 3:00am to chime in on this, but would welcome everyone's views.

    Last night, I finally watched JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK: APOKOLIPS WAR. Apparently, this will be the last animated film set in the DC Animated Movies Universe that started in 2013 with FLASHPOINT: PARADOX. Essentially, these movies were set in the animated version of the New 52 DCU.

    That leads me to ask: what came before (e.g. what was the animated universe like before FLASHPOINT: PARADOX) and what will the next animated iteration be like?

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    There was no animated movie universe, only shared animated universe was the DCAU. Before Flashpoint Paradox, the animated movies were standalone one and dones, not sharing any continuity with each other.

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    Watched Apokolips War last week. Without spoiling anything hopefully, the ending seemed to lend itself to any kind of reboot they want....they can go forward with cosmetic changes to bring things more in line visually with the current DCU, or tinker with any continuity they no longer like. Honestly I don't see much need to change any continuity pieces in the DCAU. It was very straightforward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    There was no animated movie universe, only shared animated universe was the DCAU. Before Flashpoint Paradox, the animated movies were standalone one and dones, not sharing any continuity with each other.
    And this is exactly what I hope they are going back too now with the new Superman movie coming up soon.

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    Put me down for someone who hopes they go back to the stand alone model. Forcing everything into the same universe just ruins some of these stories. There was no reason for Hush to reference Reign of the Supermen.
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    While all the DTV DCAU films were relatively stand-alone, many of them did form a loose continuity because they were fairly accurate adaptations of DC stories taking place in the same continuity.

    Batman: Year One jibes with Superman/Batman Public Enemies, which had a direct sequel in Superman/Batman Apocalypse. From there, both Batman: Under The Red Hood and Superman Unbound fit perfectly well as follow ups to those films.

    From there, the Justice League films also fit perfectly into that loose continuity, starting with JL: Crisis on Two Worlds, then JL: Doom, which leads directly into The Flashpoint Paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored at 3:00AM View Post
    While all the DTV DCAU films were relatively stand-alone, many of them did form a loose continuity because they were fairly accurate adaptations of DC stories taking place in the same continuity.

    Batman: Year One jibes with Superman/Batman Public Enemies, which had a direct sequel in Superman/Batman Apocalypse. From there, both Batman: Under The Red Hood and Superman Unbound fit perfectly well as follow ups to those films.

    From there, the Justice League films also fit perfectly into that loose continuity, starting with JL: Crisis on Two Worlds, then JL: Doom, which leads directly into The Flashpoint Paradox.
    Yes, if you want them to fit they could - but that loose continuity is only there if you want it to be in continuity. Sure, Under the Red Hood could fit into the continuity of Superman Batman Public Enemies, but it only "fits" it isn't official. It you care to have it in continuity you can say that it is, but if you don't you can say it doesn't and be just as right. It was such a loose continuity that it also doubled as not being continuity. And that flexibility worked. You weren't told that this was all connected and in the same universe, you could decide that. Getting the movie right was more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    Put me down for someone who hopes they go back to the stand alone model. Forcing everything into the same universe just ruins some of these stories. There was no reason for Hush to reference Reign of the Supermen.
    I don't think it was really that big of a deal though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I don't think it was really that big of a deal though.
    And the original Hush referenced President Luthor so it’s not like the original story completely ignored the larger DCU Status quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Alien View Post
    Waiting for Bored at 3:00am to chime in on this, but would welcome everyone's views.

    Last night, I finally watched JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK: APOKOLIPS WAR. Apparently, this will be the last animated film set in the DC Animated Movies Universe that started in 2013 with FLASHPOINT: PARADOX. Essentially, these movies were set in the animated version of the New 52 DCU.

    That leads me to ask: what came before (e.g. what was the animated universe like before FLASHPOINT: PARADOX) and what will the next animated iteration be like?

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    There was non. The Flashpoint movie was written as a standalone then according to James tucker in this interview execs just walked in told him they had decided to make it an animated universe.

    https://sciencefiction.com/2017/10/2...ed-continuity/

    It seems that we are going to get a new shared universe because in this interview Tuckers dialogue as he talks about death of Superman seems to be setup for a new shared universe.

    The scene from the Animated Flashpoint movie where Flash runs through the city was what convinced the head of CW to adapt the story for the TV Show

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    Or what for it......... We can have both Standalones and Shared Universe movies.

    I don't want either I both like we have now.
    Something for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    Or what for it......... We can have both Standalones and Shared Universe movies.

    I don't want either I both like we have now.
    Something for everyone.
    What we've had though hasn't been all that great. A few movies were shared universe that shouldn't have been.

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    I just started to take a look at some of these movies. I thought Gods and Monsters was great so I went back to Flashpoint and then Justice League War. What is next in the continuity? It thought Flashpoint and War were both animated really well. I felt sorry for Darkseid, the JLA really did a number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Thunders! View Post
    I just started to take a look at some of these movies. I thought Gods and Monsters was great so I went back to Flashpoint and then Justice League War. What is next in the continuity? It thought Flashpoint and War were both animated really well. I felt sorry for Darkseid, the JLA really did a number.

    I keep reading that, but I still keep feeling I read it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    What we've had though hasn't been all that great. A few movies were shared universe that shouldn't have been.
    How do you quantify that though? As it is we had a better Death of Superman adaption as a shared universe film then we did as a standalone, not to mention Reign.

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