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    Post Mary Elizabeth "Betty/Bette" Kane Appreciation 2020 (Bat-Girl/Flamebird/Hawkfire

    I've loved Bette for a while and was looking into her more recent appearances and apparently she hasn't appeared in 2 years. I had hoped for her to be on the Batwoman show but they created Mary Hamilton instead. I'm currently doing a read through of Bette's essential reading. I'm up to Tales of the Teen Titans Vol 1 50.

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    Was the Post Crisis version of Flamebird supposed to be the niece of the head of Spyral Kathy Kane or the current Batwoman Kate Kane?

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    hoo boy. Kane family tree time.

    Cameron Kane is the father of Robert Kane. Cameron was one of the builders of the Gates of Gotham. Roderick Kane is the descendant of Robert Kane. Elizabeth "Betsy" Arkham was the wife of Roderick. Roderick and Betsy had Nathan, Philip, Martha, Jacob and an unnamed son. Nathan married Katrina "Luka" Netz who was using the alias Kathrine "Kathy" Webb-Kane. Nathan died at some point. Kathy was the daughter of Nazi villain, Otto Netz. She was a member of Spyral and was sent to Gotham to discover who Batman was. She fell in love with him instead. She eventually became the head of Spyral after faking her death. Philip Kane just exists, he died though. No wife or kids. Martha married Thomas Wayne and you know what happened. Jacob married a fellow military officer named Gabrielle nicknamed Gabi. He and Gabi had twin daughters, Katherine Rebecca "Kate" Kane and Elizabeth "Beth" Kane. Gabi and the twins were kidnapped in Belgium and Gabi died. Beth was presumed dead but ended up being raised to become the High Madame of the Religion of Crime. She goes by Alice as a villain and Red Alice as she reforms. Kate became Batwoman after being kicked out of the military due to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". Jacob later remarried to a woman named Catherine Hamilton. The unnamed son had a daughter named Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane. Pre-Crisis, she was the first Bat-Girl and Kathy's sidekick. She was also a founding member of the Titans West. Post-Crisis she was called Flamebird and was primarily a Titans character. Eventually she became Kate's sidekick until she was gutted by the Hook. She's currently at West Point and in limbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukiakari1203 View Post
    hoo boy. Kane family tree time.

    Cameron Kane is the father of Robert Kane. Cameron was one of the builders of the Gates of Gotham. Roderick Kane is the descendant of Robert Kane. Elizabeth "Betsy" Arkham was the wife of Roderick. Roderick and Betsy had Nathan, Philip, Martha, Jacob and an unnamed son. Nathan married Katrina "Luka" Netz who was using the alias Kathrine "Kathy" Webb-Kane. Nathan died at some point. Kathy was the daughter of Nazi villain, Otto Netz. She was a member of Spyral and was sent to Gotham to discover who Batman was. She fell in love with him instead. She eventually became the head of Spyral after faking her death. Philip Kane just exists, he died though. No wife or kids. Martha married Thomas Wayne and you know what happened. Jacob married a fellow military officer named Gabrielle nicknamed Gabi. He and Gabi had twin daughters, Katherine Rebecca "Kate" Kane and Elizabeth "Beth" Kane. Gabi and the twins were kidnapped in Belgium and Gabi died. Beth was presumed dead but ended up being raised to become the High Madame of the Religion of Crime. She goes by Alice as a villain and Red Alice as she reforms. Kate became Batwoman after being kicked out of the military due to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". Jacob later remarried to a woman named Catherine Hamilton. The unnamed son had a daughter named Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane. Pre-Crisis, she was the first Bat-Girl and Kathy's sidekick. She was also a founding member of the Titans West. Post-Crisis she was called Flamebird and was primarily a Titans character. Eventually she became Kate's sidekick until she was gutted by the Hook. She's currently at West Point and in limbo.
    So Cameron Kane is the 19th century generation that was alongside Alan Wayne, Catherine van Derm, Amadeus Arkham, Jonah Hex, Theodore Cobblepot, Edward Elliot, and Burton Crowne

    Wait, Elizabeth Arkham is Jeremiah's grandmother. The Waynes and Arkhams are related then?
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    I got my data mixed up. There's an Elizabeth Kane on the tree but I don't think she's an Arkham. Before the retcon established that the Kanes and Waynes were related Martha Wayne was an Arkham by the way.

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    Where online can we see these family trees with the Wayne’s, Kane’s, Arkham’s and Cobblepot’s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Hunter View Post
    Was the Post Crisis version of Flamebird supposed to be the niece of the head of Spyral Kathy Kane or the current Batwoman Kate Kane?
    Simply put, Bette is the niece of Kathy and the cousin of Kate

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