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    The only lasting thing Bendis contributed was Iceman coming out. Everything else was generic, his new characters were un-effective and uninteresting, and his "concept" of bringing the 05 to the present completely destroyed continuity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Nah, Hickman didn't put a full story together on 9 issues, lots of one and done, no character progression
    what character progression was done in all new x-men that wasnt jean??? the 05 had one note reactions to their past, every other x-men just served as wallpaper, the plot was non existent, and the structure and the pacing was terrible.
    There wasn't a story, just a bunch of character quirps slugging along a non existant plot or conflict, nothing new, original or even remothly exciting.

    And the various plots are advancing in those 9 issues , it took 5 issues for mystique to do anything in that run and she was quickly dispatched.

    You want to be biased be biased towards your favorite character, but don't pretend your points are made to be taken seriously in any discussion becuase its so abundntly clear you dont argue in good faith or even in any objective fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    what character progression was done in all new x-men that wasnt jean??? the 05 had one note reactions to their past, every other x-men just served as wallpaper, the plot was non existent, and the structure and the pacing was terrible.
    There wasn't a story, just a bunch of character quirps slugging along a non existant plot or conflict
    "you want to be biased be biased towards your favorite character but don't pretend you're points are made to be taken seriously in any discussion becuase its so abundntly clear you dont argue in good faith.
    even if was only Jean, that still more than Hickman is doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Nah, Hickman didn't put a full story together on 9 issues, lots of one and done, no character progression
    but I think you arent being fair. aside for his one and done stories he developed the blueprint for all the other books that are circulation. the idea and execution creating a mutant nation/krakoa, the reveal of moira in her being a mutant and her actively working rewrite the apocalyptic end of mutantkind, the omega list and their importance to the survival of mutantkind, etc. are all elements unique to his vision for the franchise. His approach was an ambitious retelling of the franchise and whether he has perfectly handled an individual character or not doesnt take away from his efforts. Bendis simply doesnt have anything he did that comes close to the complexity of Hickman's work.
    Last edited by butterflykyss; 07-10-2020 at 08:40 AM.
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    even if was only Jean, that still more than Hickman is doing
    For you because of your personal preference and conection to your favorite character, stop being facetious and simply admit your personal preference as the reason, but in any and all metrics of writing, plot, worldbuilding and basic planning, hickman wins by a landslide and that is a pure and simple fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMutant View Post
    The only lasting thing Bendis contributed was Iceman coming out. Everything else was generic, his new characters were un-effective and uninteresting, and his "concept" of bringing the 05 to the present completely destroyed continuity.
    omg the O5 was absolutely the worst. ugh!
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    For you because of your personal preference and conection to your favorite character, stop being facetious and simply admit your personal preference as the reason, but in any and all metrics of writing, plot, worldbuilding and basic planning, hickman wins by a landslide and that is a pure and simple fact.
    what? the fact that bendis did more chaarcter work in 9 issues is a fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    what? the fact that bendis did more chaarcter work in 9 issues is a fact
    because he focused on 3 characters at the expense of every other aspect that makes fiction insteresting and still didn't manage to make it exceptional, the dialogue, pacing, everyone had the same voice and, terrible dialogue, boring non existant plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    bendis literaly did nothing, the only character that was factually changed and progressed, that actually DID stuff was magik
    He made Iceman gay, Squirrel Girl became once of the pedophile victims, Mystique and Xavier dumb retcon. The list goes on. Bendis wins lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    because he focused on 3 characters at the expense of every other aspect that makes fiction insteresting and still didn't manage to make it exceptional, the dialogue, pacing, everyone had the same voice and, terrible dialogue, boring non existant plot.
    what 3 characters was he focusing on?
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    because he focused on 3 characters at the expense of every other aspect that makes fiction insteresting and still didn't manage to make it exceptional, the dialogue, pacing, everyone had the same voice and, terrible dialogue, boring non existant plot.
    bendis gave everyone a little shine time, even the kids had something little going on.

    the pace and dialogue from hickman on the first 9 issues isn't any great too

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    what 3 characters was he focusing on?
    kitty, jean, the other 4 every other issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    bendis gave everyone a little shine time, even the kids had something little going on.

    the pace and dialogue from hickman on the first 9 issues isn't any great too
    oh the avengers?
    yes the avengers?
    THE avengers?
    yeah, they avenge
    yeah those avengers that avenge.

    omg scott your brother avenges?
    yeah my brother avenges he's an avenger, cool right.
    yeah, super cool.
    yeah

    Such dialogue, such pacing that it took mystique over 4 issues to achieve nothing at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    kitty, jean, the other 4 every other issue
    oh ok lol yea I tried to block his stuff from my mind. it was just bad..
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    oh ok lol yea I tried to block his stuff from my mind. it was just bad..
    every other character serve as wallpapper with the same voice, 0 notion of their continuity, lore or even conections.

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