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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    you're second point doesn't work when the majority of these crossovers over past years(inhumans vs x-men/axis/avengers vs x-men, etc) have been trying their hardest to use mutants to uplift other proprieties at the x-men's cost, avengers vs x-men hijacked the conclusion to the messiah arc, butchered phoenix lore and tried it's very hardest to paint mutants as the villains for the avengers (and every other marvel team that joined that side) to overcome and defeat, destroyed Utopia, and gave us a conclusion to M-Day, an event that victimized the franchise, with a story that vilefies them.

    Another example, uncanny avengers, butchered apocalypse lore and a terrible dark angel saga sequel because avenger's elements such as thor and kang were shoved into it.

    Even in this recent F4 crossover, every single issue is filled with the fantastic four's opinions, acusations and takes, the x-men are never allowed to speak up or even say something back, they serve to look cool on the covers and look to the air as every member of fantastic four lectures them witout any semblance of an equal back and forth dialogue, it's never about their opinions or motivations, they are just there to get finger wagged by the F4 that are OBVIOUSLY framed as the main characters, because it's not a true crossover of equal parts but a story to uplift the fantastic four witout any care for the x-men, but promoted as a true "crossover"

    all of these create the oposite effect, I don't want to buy any avengers, fantastic four comics or whatever.

    its a problem that has soured any crossover for me personally, because everytime the x-men are treated as the main punching bags AND the cash cows that everyone outside the x-offices has no issues trashing, and has been so for almost a decade, everytime a new "crossover" is anounced I know it doesnt matter if they are in a sex cult island or playing respectability politics, trying their very best to super-hero their way out of genocide witout any semblance of a spine or teeth, in an ugly mansion that tends to explode, that there's one common and certain thing:

    The x-men wont get anything from it, not even a fun time, wich ends up causing said hostility and desire for seperation.

    Until we get a bit more balance or even the tables reversed, I. have no interest in "integration" that realy is just picking up popular x-men concepts and characters to promote other titles.
    The X-Men's opinions...and racism...were clearly portrayed. Franklin is a mutant...therefore the opinions and decisions of his inferior human parents don't matter and the mutant community will do a much better job of raising him than his biological parents. Pay no attention to superhuman arms race they are engaging in to gain control of all Omega Level Mutants to use as weapons against their enemies.

    Also...completely ignore the X-Men's hypocrisy when it comes to them going thru their gates to anywhere in the world and pressuring and threatening the rest of the world into accepting Krakoa or else...but the FF come looking for Franklin and Valeria because the X-Men have shown they are not trustworthy and the X-Men have a conniption.
    Last edited by Chris0013; 07-11-2020 at 05:28 AM.

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